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speaker 2: this call may be recorded press one to accept hello Hey Mami sorry I didn't tell you that I wanted people to know that might be autistic so what you're representing to me when you say that is that nothing has changed and you don't have an interest in changing and that you want to fall back into unhealthy patterns that we've been in your Hold On Me I know that you don't want to take ownership cuz you don't want to take ownership of your character problems that you're a dishonest person you you want to frame apology as though if you had known that it was important to me that you say these words you would have said them the first time so that means that the real problem in the relationship in merit badge I know the real problem here is not that Dustin is a life the real problem is not that just to make sure but off with an hour of psychological abuse just to get dust into Iraq was true in the first place and he could have said the first time he was asked the real problem in the relationship is Erin and she had these weird things that she randomly decide their lives you know they're true and she had these weird exact phrases that she expects Dustin to mind read that she wants him to say and he loves her so much that even though she's crazy and cuts off these things that he needs to say he would absolutely say that if only he knew that that would make her happy because he'd do anything to make her happy that narrative doesn't lead to you changing that's not repentance that's what you looking inside of yourself and seeing how your dishonesty is destructive that's not you recognizing that you could leave through the wringer every chance you get so that means that you want me to feel safe with you because you're using the words I'm sorry so that you can get back in bed with me and I'm back to being unsafe because you're still a lawyer you still cheat on me you still don't actually feel like you even send in the first place country and and you're not taking your guilt and your shame to the Cross where it belongs that doesn't what what I do think that I can skate how's that I was the mostly invested with and I no not the problem the problem is your larger the problem is you'd like to me yesterday the problem is you won't need to believe that you broke me that I'm like emotionally damaged because it hurt my feelings that you cheated on me it doesn't hurt my feelings often I don't feel bad about myself that you picked a flood instead of a classy woman that that speaks that speaks to your character and it says nothing about me I'm not broken and the reason I knew that you weren't lying yesterday would not because I have that issue is now the reason I knew you were lying yesterday is because you actually lying yesterday and it's still relatives hold on just a sec sorry anyways your lungs are still relative to the affair you had like dra2 something that that was with your workplace and with Julie and with this new identity that you came up with that makes you feel good about yourself when you were escaping having to deal with who actually were in what you'd actually done if you're still doing that you're still denying that you made me work while I was pregnant and had an infant so that you can have money for your home or denying that you took that that money that I earned Thru Me sacrificing my actual life like my actual life was that I was supposed to be at home nursing my baby does my actual life and I gave up my whole actual life so that you could have money that you just turned around and squandered away by using it as an excuse to sleep in a different city than your family like that's who you actually are that's what you've actually done and you decided when you went to American Catholic homes that you had a whole new identity where you were a successful businessman and you would select all these houses and people looked at you like you were dead somebody so smart and so amazing and a little quirky I guess and you liked how that made you feel when you write that Julie thought that was true about you and your deluded yourself into thinking it was true about yourself and here we are you still won't admit that you squandered away all the money that I gave up my actual life so that you could have you still aren't admitting I wish that I haven't had you I do but you're still not admitting the ways that you were strategically forming that new identity apart that you that you were just decided that you resented me for not believing you're autistic you decided that you feel better about yourself when you can be around people to see you that way and treat you that way he sees me or treat me like anything and you know everybody that's not true everybody seems to interest everybody sees you and treat you the way that they see an injury or everybody has a perception of everybody and you know that when you started working at American Classic Homes you may became more hyper aware than you had ever been as the concept of making impressions of people hi Tom over here okay and you present yourself and you're still lying about today what am I lying about lying about anything lying about the fact that you became obsessed with yourself presentation I mean right you're you're never asking about I don't know what you're talking about I mean nobody don't interact with people at American classic how you interacted with Julie bapst you're such a lighter you lying yeah I like this is ridiculous know nothing has changed this is a exact same behavior that you were engaging in at the end of last July and August nobody can live with a man who is engaging in the behaviors that you're engaging in right now I don't know what you're talking about possible you just told me that you don't interact with anybody from American Classic Homes I can't imagine that we have a relationship with somebody like that but I didn't even that you interact with people from your workplace no I do I don't interact with anybody from my workplace I had a relationship with Julie like you're arguing about something I didn't even see even say you interact with people from your workplace if you did if I'm going to find the control their impression of me or something and this is not like some kind of trouble accusation of evil but you went through some things that caused you to choose to have a new identity apart from your family because you had really really failed your family and you were avoiding that and you're still avoiding that and not dealing with your own failures in a healthy way by admitting them and taking them to Jesus and letting him be the one who deals with your guilt and your Fame you're in denial about what you've actually done to me about anything I haven't denied anything else and it's try to put it off like as increase and I told you that I'm sorry that you were that was a good idea with a set that we acquired through my research my savings from high school and college and gift from my parents that's where they have the ability and the matter to me that we don't agree about that you've got nothing to do it would be fine if you $5,000 a year that you made teaching that was not worth it I do not disagree about that that's really interesting to say I'm saying I agree with you Aaron you say that $35,000 mean squat to you that's how much I did to you when you were holding out for it not here I'm saying that you're worth more than that to me and it's not have stated your time for $35,000 a year was a mistake that took a own did you do with the money that I
speaker 1: what did you do with it that's it we
speaker 2: traded it for $35,000 worth of something we took it and you know if it's something like listen we could live off of $35,000 a year that's enough for a family of five okay well we've never done that I think about that for a second is that what you're asking from me you want to live on $35,000 a year I have
speaker 1: I always just wanted to ask for anything more
speaker 2: that's interesting too ridiculous is there as you for a new phone you said $50,000 in debt I understand your question you're in denial about what you have died this single-handedly you single-handedly have school hundred years all the money that I sacrifice LED light to have because you told me that it would make you happy because then you would be a successful entrepreneur month I see what my lights and you're lying to me repeatedly that I'm sorry ma'am we have you work I don't think that it was worth it I wish we haven't done that beautiful that's what this is about my feelings being hurt that you maybe work that is what this is about don't devalue what happens if you have taken my 35,000 and you had been responsible with it then it would have been worth it it was a 35,000 Dustin it was $35,000 that you were going to make into two hundred fifty thousand in a very short time. it would have been worth it you're not admitting that you squandered it away from your selfishness and bad decision-making you're not admitting them all good looks like you're not admitting that you went out and bought that trailer that did not yield any profit you're not admitting that you sent over the edge of Falls but I'm not going to admit something that's not true
speaker 1: let's see what you actually did does did what
speaker 2: I actually did is I bought a $4,000 trailer and I turned it into a $20,000 trailer off that helps me with working and helps us with our storage and it's just your statement about the trailers fault so set hey but that's got nothing to do pay Larry like you you're mixing things together that doesn't make any sense $4,000 is not worth $20,000 because of my work life it's only worth twenty if you sell it Dustin no I'm not popular to utilize it in a way that causes your family to get $150,000 in debt that's what it's worth okay 150,000 Fidelity Investments right now I'm okay but the acceptability working at Fidelity Investments right now at 0% to admit that your inability to make good decisions like that for your family and make the fact lifestyle sacrifice of having a job that you don't enjoy cuz there's no food in you taking what I'm having four hundred thousand dollars in real estate equities $20,000 and the trailer Equity there's $60,000 in equity there's $10,000 and photography equity and I have told you you can have it if you're intent on leaving me over this sucks because of the false statement about its fall very clearly falls off see what we're paying the service to start yeah I understand I understand what you're saying I told that you could see what we're sending up service in credit card debt that make sense I think that. Except a logical mathematical decision off let me see the actual actually done. Let me it's not that why everything that we did with the money to it is math doesn't know to feel good about yourself and imagine that that's reality imagining anything telling you not to think that the $4,000 in real estate Equity is because of you and it's not that I think anybody I don't think anybody anyway you don't agree about and we're always because of you off automatically true and it seems to me that you don't have to go to Julie in order for you to feel like a real man that's business and has this amazing portfolio because you worked so hard to build a competition like if that's what you mean that you have to go to people who don't know it doesn't have to be something it does have to be usually because because just bought it doesn't I do not talk to Julie anymore until he's got nothing to do with any of this back to the fact I'm not talking about that at that point about whether you talk or I'm talking about what does it take off for you to be able to be affirmed as am and you need to believe that you're a successful businessman who has built this $400,000 portfolio so hard work and Ingenuity and understanding of finding the mathematical formulas so I don't actually have faith that you were able to purchase so they at $100,000 when it was worth more than that now when a hundred and ten like I this is all math and this is not like you couldn't have done it you didn't have any hard because like the terrible and nobody is debating that with you I'm saying you put in the papers purchases you wouldn't have found the purchases that wasn't a stockbroker making the money that made it possible that you were you were going to get a master's degree in finance okay and then three months later I was a stockbroker it was it was another two years I was the one who is working at twenty years old I was the one earning a full-time income to buy that first house. Anyway and like you said it would be fine if you always assume that we have a portfolio because of you and I really think we have a pet really oh because of me if it were fact the fact that you actually need a woman to believe in you and you actually go to work where nobody knows the truth about what you've done in order to feel better about what I've done the truth is the truth we're talking about fast you told me I have to talk to them you don't want me to tell her you're going to people who you have intentionally shut off to anybody. I work in a neighborhood by myself am Rodger you told me specifically told me extremely inappropriate and strange Behavior if you were to do that song about you and your business they think about you is the truth about you the truth is the truth there and talk to them because that would be extremely weird and then afraid that that's the problem with our marriage is that you can't talk to my employer took them but a terrible person I am religion that their marriage is that you are selfish and you lied and I can't help you with you're going to be dead artists that's the problem in our marriage I'm not being dishonest the fact that I can't tell your employer this is just whatever a consequence it's it's a side effect of being someone who's dishonest and selfish if you're honest and you were unselfish then there wouldn't even be anything I could tell your employer that you wouldn't want them to know my my dad had never heard nothing that you can tell my employer that I don't want to know I don't want my wife calling my employer and acting like a suggest if it is but you didn't know that you didn't want them to know the truth specifically told me that you're lying to me right now I told you to call my employer and both of them about how you hate me over whatever you told me that there's nothing you've ever done that you don't want them to know if that's not true that's not true when do I not want them to know Rodger to know that you had an affair with god well that's his knees and that's her private information like is it's not private information does nothing about that it is not by this a lot so it's not that long has she wants to tell him that she can it's good information information off yes it is doing something shameful behind closed doors just signed it information I don't think that Rodger would think that that was shaped. If he's a trashy person he's a trashy person but I have zero clue why you decided in November that you needed Rodger to not know about it at the time you seem to think that birth so what they did was pretty shameful I have no idea I've never met the guy so it's private information I'm not going to share with him with it's not mine to share private information it is not it is yours to share because you were the one who was doing it yeah because I was the one who it is not put there's nothing private about Julie cheating on her husband and you cheating on your wife there is nothing private about that there never was dead you are delusional if you think that you can do something that simple and shameful and you have some right to secrecy about it you don't private is what happens behind closed doors with your wife that's what private because that's actually sacred don't have a right to somebody's co-workers and tell them that they cheated in your opinion which none of them would think that that would that's not true God yes you make it now you're making up for the right to write to your sending a secret you don't have that that's that's currently making this up in your head completely that you have a right to secrecy about your sin and shapes I'm telling you my my father never did anything off at work at home in the community in the bedroom nothing my dad never did anything anything that my birth mom could have called his principal instead and my dad would have been ashamed I do not believe that's correct but I'm telling you I know you're telling me about you I don't think that's correct. I'm telling you I know that you're telling me that is not correct I don't know what to tell you that it's just true know it's not what did he do that he would have been ashamed for his possible I'm not going to tell you that's his private information are you saying my dad for something terrible that I don't know about and you know about no not saying that the lady talking about the Google Assistant your installation is false oh yes it is no I'm telling you the truth people actually live their lives in a way that they don't think that they're still needs to be kept away from their employer or their wife or anybody it's when you're not living deceitfully then when you make mistakes other people can all about them and it's not shameful because other people can relate to those things because everybody makes mistake everybody gets upset sometimes everybody's unkind sometimes everybody blows the money sometimes like those are normal things but this place that you're in of thinking that it's something that's private information because it would be too weird to call somebody in the only thing that makes it weird for me to call you back of your scenario ever taking place in real life ever somebody's wife calling their employer to tell them all there in the they're dead you know then that she told me once and that's not true I think are you aware of any other scenario. I called their employer to unearth their view of their entire life or something I am Tire life the context was in November I knew that you were delusional because I knew for a hundred percent certainty that I was telling you at every opportunity that I had you were allowed to have custody of your children as much as you wanted any time you wanted and you told me that you people at work would disagree and I thought that was really strange but you would take people who have no knowledge of the situation hadn't seen any of our Our Family Wizard messages have never met me in person had never actually seen or children's changing custody from Chicago Warehouse if you have the mind and only knew what you were told them and using that as some kind of validation that your analysis was accurate I thought that was really weird that you're going to work in your thoughts about losing custody of your children and you're using the fact that people are emphasizing emphasizing with you and saying that's terrible that she won't let you see your children as proof that she would let you see your children I know that me and this guy has a mental health Forum home I heard him basic facts about things that happens yep never told me that you put our kids in public school so that you could spend all your time divorcing me even though you did say that you I told you that it would be helpful if the people that you're going to and telling all this what actually I'm a private information because it's within the marriage covenant in the sacred bond between a husband and a wife that you were going and you're sharing project camping without my permission home actual information that you were divulging outside of our marriage and now claiming some rights and I'm telling you that I offered at that should help you I wanted to help you understand reality because I recognize that you were struggling with reality because you when you don't remember the dead actual events that happened doesn't help mischaracterizing what happened I'm not characterizing I have first-hand document I have the actual documents from that you never said things that you said the reason that I offered to go to Rodger was because you were the one who was choosing had to divulge personal information to him and because his empathy was allowing you to feel like you're off the reasons were being Affirmed so don't accuse me a threatening to go and trash you to your employer that's not what we're talking about here we're talking about you're going to call by employers should ever you need to do I that's not what I'm talking about today I'm not threatening to call Rodger I'm not saying it's going to make our marriage better if Rodger knows I'm saying that you are well aware that you are ashamed of your behaviors as you are well aware that you want people at work to see you in a way that is completely different than who you really are and you evidently think that that is normal that everybody goes home and lies and cheats and deceives and and then and then goes to work with an expectation that Network that everybody that everybody at work is not allowed to know the truth I just call them if that's going to help that's not the problem I'm going to think that I didn't create value and I real estate portfolio nobody's going to think that automatically impossible dead I was not saying that I need to convince them that you didn't create value I was saying that you are well aware that you went to American Classic Homes to create an alternative identity and you are well aware that you don't want them to know the truth about you and you are well aware that when you go there you feel away about yourself that is different than the way you feel about yourself when you with people from her church when you're an American classic everybody departure just listening to there's oh God yes if you talk to them about the math they would have to understand that math is math they talking about the math I'm saying 100% just in general around the board you are well aware that there that you weren't people to see when a certain way and when you see the how I see you you don't feel good about yourself and when you think about how people from our church to you you don't feel good about yourself but when you think about how people that are American classic cold for you you feel good about that you love the fact that all of a sudden have received by the way you don't like you don't like anything about wage no it's just that I know the truth Dustin and if anybody things that they would feel the same you know the truth you see the truth differently than me and you don't like the truth you don't like me no choice is truly what I think that Julie would hate your guide that's what I'm saying like you in the first place just like the I swear dust and she would not like you took off like the only reason that you have that thing matter you don't have a relationship with Julie nothing that you had a relationship with her I'm saying the problem. the overview and somehow you think that because I know the real view it's going to be helpful to go and get yourself Confidence from people who know the truth but you in your mind you're going to imagine that these Subs know the real you because they see how far you are they see how helpful you are they see how professional you are they see how personable you are they see who you are and so you get to see so that's all that there is production he's just smart and helpful and kind and great because I am smart and helpful in time not that I know that. Thank you for escaping then you're escaping dealing with your actual thin and that's what you'll you'll say that according to you is I'm lying when I tell you something and it doesn't off and exact process like you think I should have and it's because you're a liar by birth process if you want to text me I'm sorry that I didn't say the words that you wanted I'm sorry that I didn't say I want people to think I'm autistic then the whole package in our marriage is that you have a wife who is so freaking psychotic that she goes crazy if you don't limit the exact words but she expects you to death like if that's the problem in your marriage then you have no intention of changing you have no intention of looking at yourself you have no intention of them what you're doing you don't want change at all and if you don't want change at all then I can't want you at all because what you've been doing is sinful and toxic and harmful to your children that soon as in the living room that it's harmful to your children you cannot live with me if you're not going to change you cannot shows if you're not going to admit but you have a problem with courtesy and and you're not going to deal with your Pharmacy until you recognize is a root of a problem with your self concept you're not dealing on the content with your failure of a business him instead of actually dealing with the shame of being a failure as a businessman you're suggesting to go outside of the realm of people who are in your actual life who actually know you and we're actually with you and actually supporting you while you were failing at business and now you're out in bed all of your time wisely and while you were leasing houses for way above market value where they wouldn't sell no matter what all the people who are actually part of your life to avoiding and degrading and disregarding and going outside of that to people who did not know you at the time so that you can get a fresh start and in your mind pretend that it never happened and in your mind off everything that happened to public record so it's not it's not it's not a lot of birth you did that was awful public record a lot a lot fortunately I have to private records it's a fortunately I have the private records well hey I'm not trying to talk to you I I don't like the fact that that sticker because of something outside of yourself because you like other people who are autistic you are with autistic that doesn't excuse me that it that doesn't excuse a lot about it it's okay the reason I got the sticker is because I self-identify as autistics but I know that doesn't want to hear that right now let's talk to my wife about that before and I don't enjoy having that conversation because she had she denies it about me so I don't even want to go there so he said I'm just going to say well I like the sticker the fact that you knew that I already have excuse the line that folded then they wanted to make sure that I would if it was obvious then why was it necessary for you to get a different answer I gave you the account. I got the picture which was the question that you asked me and the reason you got the sticker was I like it that's not what you said I like it because I like autistic people and I wanted to support autism that's not what you said it's like the exact same thing area you said because I don't remember the exact phrase I said before the Dow I'm lying about what it said with the same thing you said I support autism wage and a lot of autistic people okay and that's different than what I just had how okay but the truth what's the actual proof the actual truth is that you wanted other people to have that in the back of them maybe Dustin's quirky or socially awkward because he has Asperger's so what's the actual reason that you decided that would help you to have that on your truck to have it on my truck off what you decided we decided to take time out of your day to stop what you were doing even though you had things that you could be doing for your children and your wife to prioritize spending time and money looking for a house to go on your shocks it's a lot of minutes but this is something that might this is something that might explain your social awkwardness the what I need the world to me I didn't what the lie to me but this is like this is relative to you willing Julie so I'm thinking that I'm autistic helpful to our marriage you to be dishonest about the things that you are needed for yourself respect and your self concept what are leading you to have to go get them from other people you would you weren't me to believe that you want Asperger's Dustin he would be happier with you said believe that either with a Y to affirm that you were happier with Julie because you thought maybe she thought that we can't work through many of these deeper needs that you have if you're going to be in denial about them I don't need you to think that I'm not istic specifically but that along with a thousand other things I think about you leads you to need to seek validation from another woman for calling about a thousand things and you can't even be honest about one of them then how are you ever going to have your needs met within your marriage you don't think that I'm autistic anyway like the whole piece for lying to me yesterday has it you scared of what my reaction would be is no excuse for telling a lie I mean I'm not scared of what your reaction is going to be already know the reaction is you don't think that must be right in that conversation then to avoid it off waiting it I have a sticker on my car you went out of your way to pull I about the reason cigarette you lie all the time and you think it's okay it's like some of your excuses are so ridiculous that you thought it was okay to lie because the truth was so obvious that it doesn't need to be said that's ridiculous that's not a good reason to lie not a lie is a lie it is a way it's a lie actually worried that it was obvious to me that you wanted people to say if you have Asperger's then there's no reason to say that it's because you support authors and then you might be autistic people I do but that's the reason that he has is it is it a detail you didn't get a detailed report patriotic cancer but you had a camper pack that's what the details you meant when you told me that and I knew it when you told me that and very soon after you knew that I knew the truth you already knew the truth from the beginning you knew the truth when I got the sticker like no why did you think they got this one here I didn't I didn't just like I don't know why you like fishing fun you said that I bought a fish when I was little and I wanted to know yep scared of fish or cold. Stupid scared of bed never ever ever been okay baby bath and they also used to not eat turkey and I also use my ticket in a y I don't know why I know you do all of these things for to leave but I I don't necessarily know why so tell me I do when you got the decal while you were doing that was said nothing that you did for her made any sense took a decal for Julie you're not being honest about it doesn't
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speaker 2: nothing is Kickin and then a few things are honest relationship I'd like to share with you I mean it's terrifying now everything I say typically the being dishonest everything I say Aaron you think I'm being dishonest I could tell you the truth you say that I'm missing something or is it off myself you're telling me that I'm just a person who says that things are lies that's not okay that's not okay for you to ask me to believe that about myself honestly I think I think you just want people to believe whatever you say if they ask me a question and I give them the answer I would like to leave it playing how do you think the fact that you're saying that makes it true and you think the fact that there's no that's true if you ask me a question and I give you the truthful answer then it's true if you ask me another question and I give you to fully answer that's true that's true of operate in real life you actually an operate in real life by expecting people to believe what you say and then deciding that if they buy it that makes it true that's how you're actually operating you when you decided that decide if something is true and you need when you decided to cheat on me that you were cheating on me and I said oh you're talking about you you have missed it when you decided to do it you knew that you were doing it and if I read all of your texts in which you were definitely cheating on me and you would come to me and you had said well those are completely innocent and I had said oh okay good dog bad and you said I don't even have a relationship with her I don't know what you're talking about and I said oh okay good I'm glad and we just gone on with our lives you would still be a be operating under the delusion that you didn't have a relationship with her and that you didn't cheat on your wife like it's only the fact that people hold you accountable for the fact that you were willing to change your brains version of what you wanted to pretend the truth was green with that you know that I agree with that you doing the same thing with this one my wife would let me have my kids in like you're operating under the idea that she wouldn't let you have your kids we're continuing to operate under that all evidence to the contrary and you think that if your wife would just admit that she wasn't letting you have your kids then she could just go on with our lives and for the rest of our lives that would suddenly be the truth because that's what you believe happened and that's what your wife now agrees happened and so now that's what happened. I don't think it's batteries there and you think that you think that if you you say it and you can get another person from that that the truth but the truth is not on the basis of line and another person so if I started agreeing with you oh wow I remember you're right I wouldn't even let you have your kids for a week at a time but that would suddenly rewrite history and make that how it actually occurred it doesn't rewrite history nothing else yeah but you believe that that's actually what happened I already believe that that's what happens that would be a result of History nothing rewrites history yeah absolutely people rewrite history all the time history is like the like the The Narrative the account that is handed down in writing or orally of past events and things that you can no longer see with your own eyes off currently happening to change what actually happens but we have an oil history that you're talking about an oral history and you want the oral history are agreed story of what occurred in the past to be that your wife somehow prevented you with through Vudu or some other mystical means than being able to line up before and after year and kids up from school and take them to stay at the McDonald's for that you prevented me from signing up before and after gear the kids off I have I mean if it wasn't if it wasn't preventing you from picking the kids up and taking them to the McDonald's house and if it wasn't preventing you from running at the before and after care that I have no freaking idea what means I went about that that prevented you from having your kids that would be okay either ignored me or if you wanted to do a standard plan off every other weekend or whatever it was normal time you asked like within the contacts that may have any before and after care that was the only time we're expecting you play things off I would like to talk to my employer but that was the only time that you made a direct question if your next direct question was no I don't like you having a merry custody as for the you know primary time sharing that you referenced I'm actually going to pick the kids up this Friday after school and I'm going to keep them until the following Friday 5:00 when I didn't take any I wouldn't have taken any steps to prevent that but has nothing to do with me they're your children you will have them any time you want 24/7 day or night for restrictions your children you're right your responsibilities I think that you just were not able to wrap your head around the concept of actually being responsible for them 24/7 when they're with you. I think that you actually feel entitled to having somebody else work out all the logistics for you because that's how it's always better to just think like I am now you didn't you didn't need permission to do that that's been I have no freaking idea what to do and I was trying to be deferential to you and get you on board for the plan would be so that's not to be preventing you when when you make a decision in deferential that's if you're deciding that you want to be deferential that's not really preventing you that's that's insane for you to say that I decided to defer to what she wanted therefore she was preventing me and so I get to sit around and try to everybody about how my kids got taken away your kids didn't take it away you gave them away that's how you do it that's how it works you have your if you are the only female in the oil change decided that you wanted to utilize that didn't want me to have them I was wanting to 3 but we could share our thoughts 50/50 and make an agreement about it or just trying to take them out of school by overriding you that makes no sense Dustin you're actually I'm not making sense meaning is you would not agree you have indicated could be 15 months you mean that the legal right to go pick my kids up from school so it's not to do that because literally one hundred percent your decision off your decision and half my decision it was one and everybody that I told you told me well you know you have the legal right to go and take them whenever you want at home yeah firstly I know exactly I mean that you won't agree to me having that true yes one for you I had a more realistic view of what was in their best interest because I'm their mother who is actually sent every day with one of their entire life that's what you meant that but that's not the same as not that but I but that's not the same as me not letting you off them that's you you trying to make it like I would say no no no no don't take them or no no no no you can't do that or no I'm not doing that or if you try to take them I'm filing an injunction off I'm going to have an emergency hearing because this is not okay that's it women do who are presenting their husbands and having their children 50/50 and so you might have gotten comfortable doing that I would say you might have had people believing that this filing an injunction against me they have everything you have Michael Green a lot of women do that though if it was a situation I was ready to fight you in that somebody like you would that was what was going to happen if you checked your kids at home I don't know what that means but you know what you were presenting you were presenting yourself as a victim of that because but it was one hundred percent your decision 0% my decision I was just okay with you have the kids fifty percent and you would ignore me or because standards that you suck and they Friday November 14th 5:00 never give it time because they would ever agree that I could have them that's not the issue of operations Dustin I can't say yes or no if you go to prison 50% we swapped we did you want me to come up with the schedule when you know it in three formats so at the end of a week then one of us would get the kids off all you have to do is take a week but instead you wanted to say fifty-fifty and have me come up with a schedule and you know it but the fact that you're not willing to take any initiative the fact that you're not able to come up with it it's 50-50 you just do it somebody has to be first right well the first person was obviously you since you've been the entire time no it was on you to do the first pick up right you are the one who needed to get the kids I was the one who was taking care of that you should have freaking done it I asked over and over and over and did you tell me when you wanted to say that I said no the only time was when you demanded the day before that I was unilaterally deceitfully capriciously arbitrarily giving myself two weekends in a row and it took me because I already had somebody tickets other than that I never said no and I absolutely never ignore the request that you made for time ever ever ever ever ever inside that you made a request for time and I ignored your request ever this type of stuff that I'm hopeful a psychologist can help us work through I got trying to this is a problem Dustin seems like a significant it's not wanting to sit down to get me to go off being so wonderful to me when he was slandering me and I just and so in secured so finally I just took it the wrong way but that is the cover off the happens you've got to admit that you've been abusive towards me you've got to admit that you're a little bit busier days you know they they have to tell you that you're dead wrong I think everybody everybody has their own eyes they said that they think you don't need a professional force a stop worrying I don't need to put actually a problem whatsoever they disagree with you because you're you you're the girl and I know you happy have that support but we have first-hand you have you read the messages yet the what have you go back and re-read all of our family wizard messages I ask you to do that two weeks ago so now it's local delusion you only expose yourself to things that confirm your fantasy and you choose not to expose you think yourself to things that are going to go against what you want to believe about yourself that's true yeah it is does computer ease of Our Family Wizard messages and I'm happy to do that with a psychologist session then why didn't you do that other projects don't really like being in my family wizard ever I if you're going to say that people support me because I'm a woman we don't take care of women you did you did you said people are going to believe you version of events and you feel for you because you're a woman and I'm glad that you have that took everything but the other colleges to give you the truth like I'm not going to be married to you if that's how you're going to if you're going to devalue and degrade I received the truth if your plan is already met your going to say that that board doesn't care because I talked to him before you talked to him then why are you even planning to do that if that's your actual strategy like a shared data be a you said exactly exactly so I don't I don't I have no idea why you're planning to go to sessions with him because I have no idea to do that because you feel safer and I care about you yeah but if you're if the whole problem is that stable person who has seen me the truth tells you the same thing and you take the same thing that every details about actual problem but not oh you're so abusive know about it.
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speaker 2: don't know what you're saying I've never I've never told anybody my husband is so abusive that has not happened I'm going to have to go here if you think that I pull somebody that you're abusive you are delusional we're talking about exact actions that are documented we're talking about phone conversations that I have a recording of us well great and that's nice that's all I share with people it seems that I've actually occurred and sheriff telephone people most of them are have eyewitnesses for well I was our problem because the debate the facts are not documentable and the problem because the fact are documentable but those would be great to talk with an actual psychologist and I'm happy for you to be mad at 4 but you should understand that there's literally no body that you've ever talked to that had access to any data besides your perceptions right off no nobody nope nobody was trying to get to the bottom of what really happened in our marriage know otherwise times is different but I'm saying no psychologists have been trying to figure out for delusional or not that hasn't been something that anybody's tried to do or have an interest in doing I specifically asked them to figure that out so they didn't they didn't have any interests in comparing your perceptions to reality they just wanted to know how may I help you I I just I'm really sorry but I'm going to have to go there's my boss not here and there's a VP and I don't like to deceive you I don't want to deceive myself that's terrible yeah but if you return to this that you if your intention is to say every professional I spoke with you ignoring me not to go to my wife individual and as soon as that says something that I just feel that it's because I'm I'm going to say it's because he's hurt individual then he did not do it because that's not go through that again at 4 every single time every single time somebody tells you the truth because they have access to first-hand data you're going to devalue and discard them as being too biased that's harmful to me that's automatic for me what you need to not even do it if that's your intention but if they don't have that and everything that I can I've done everything that I can to try to access people that you were listened to and fro completely unsuccessful at every turn sorry about that truly know I'm happy to work with that and I'm happy for our work to be based on facts I think I'm I'm not happy about your I'm not happy about your pre-planning to claim ahead of time that you to virus that really scares me about what you're going to do is because Erin Bell was never biased I don't know the law was never biased like you're talking about completely unbiased is not worth anything. I'm just saying it's not until after they tell you honestly it's not until after they tell you the truth that all of a sudden they're biased and so if your plan is a coup that that were this is the great one because as soon as he sides with my wife I just to say he's biased and I had a really good chefs cause for cleaning out about him because I've got all these professionals who would say that it was unethical for him to work based on Fox like documentable. So that nobody has ever heard anything that took it back everybody has been dealing with in fact Erin Bell was dealing with science know it wasn't going to say articulate is this thing you mean the fact that he's unable to do it no you did it over and over and over and over and over now he refused to do it over and over and over he did many times I heard of at least a hundred times actual facts and I'm happy to go and I know you press that expanding it's traumatic for me when you take somebody who's telling you the truth and you know the value them and claim that they're not based on that that is not okay and I don't want to go through that not even with that I don't want to go through you discard to him just because you want to say he's by it so I want to do that all right bye