speaker 1: this call may be recorded press one to accept hi hey sorry I fell asleep what time what's up what time did you go to bed speaker 2: I have no idea early speaker 1: I sat down the message is a Facebook people and I fell asleep cuz you're doing messaging in bed you were in bad shape to do messaging I was sitting in my chair and the tool trailer you were sleeping in the trailer yes are you still in your trailer yes you were sleeping in a speaker 2: chair yes speaker 1: must have been four hours let me I'm just worried about what you've been taking over the last year when they can anything other than the medicine that anyway gave me which I'm not taking bye what are you actually like what else I mean you know what are you yes thank you anything thanks I can be helpful or if it's kind of my business I don't I don't want to speak I don't know if you feel like it's none of my business meme what's the name of your business little substances I don't use substances like like you use anything with caffeine in it I drink coffee in the morning or in the afternoon usually just the morning use anything with nicotine in it yes I'll make you sleepy what is it asked what makes you sleepy I just Hospital Systems issues so well now we got them covered I'm sorry yeah I'm still use Tylenol Pensa headache I take Tylenol sometimes I'm only taking Tylenol cuz the coronavirus so used to take Ibuprofen what you say why don't you go to the trailer cuz I have a little desk set up in my trailer yes I have a little desk set up a bedroom can't understand you you have a desk in your bedroom well I guess I'm here have an office chair and I've got two monitors yeah is there anything that they tell me I talked to see a and he's willing to pay for my class how are you feeling about that I don't know feel like I'm willing to do it yeah I'm just like feeling like worried that it's not going to be worth it I feel worried that speaker 2: I don't know speaker 1: yeah I feel worried about talking to any of them so I'd rather not talk anybody you mean I mean that I wish I was dead you don't want to talk to who were you referring to you don't want to talk speaker 2: to you speaker 1: anybody it's not what you said well that's what I mean I don't I mean I don't really believe that know what else to tell you any I don't really want to talk to anybody you don't feel like you like to talk to your friends for money lake or you like to talk to your friends from work or anybody not really speaker 2: I speaker 1: don't think I'm going to be able to stay married to you said I know will incur through the man of Peace camping to manipulate me and just not divorcing you and making up for something I'm just sad that after our conversation Sunday all right was I was clearly hurt that when I made myself vulnerable enough to point out specific wise that you've told you dealt with them in the same then I I'm shifting way that you've always that was specific wise I grabbed your attention and the last 3 days it doesn't seem like that has like had any effect on you that you care at all that you've given it any thought. That's why I say we need couples therapy because if you're and I perception of things is often drastically different than happy because you're delusional well I'm getting that as much as I can and also problematic off that if your wife thinks that you're delusional you probably need a couple therapy to figure out what's going on and off my perception of reality I don't want to join you in your delusion that would be the only purpose have you wanting to deal with it that way no honey yeah one hundred percent of people who know what actually happened they don't necessarily think you're delusional but they at least know that what you're saying isn't true and you do too so it is still seems rather manipulative perception when you say you know I think I don't know who all you're talking to but everybody haven't bought bottom everybody you haven't blocked me from does that mean you blocked me or you blocked me from speaking to your co-workers so if they are affirming your delusions that's because I've been barred from communicating wasn't able to communicate with honey wage I'm not allowed to talk to your current therapist and you act like you don't need to talk about who back to it did not happen and I did my best and I don't need to be ashamed for my best not being good enough I'm just saying if you're older than information I did not I did not I did not say that I'm just saying you can't take in of only buddy who else asking somebody cable they don't know well I wasn't talking about that are communicating I don't think that they're going to said that we need to go to couples counseling office I didn't say that they said that we need to go to counseling I'm saying that I don't think that most people are going to say that that I'm delusional and your perception of reality is a hundred percent correct and but I just I don't I don't think that most people view us that way and I don't see anything that's irrational views off your little seems to sleep during two people who don't know what actually happened and I'm not allowed to speak to who these it that way a person I am I think everybody quite honestly but see a and I had talked about that element of this quite a bit so you think that my perception is off huh he takes my perception is off he thinks everybody's perception is perception and things that actually occurred are not things that actually occurred or fax you understand the difference but you can have an opinion about like how like like one perception might be destined delusional and another perception might be destined to walk right that's an example of two different perceptions people get have looking at the same circumstances but the words that are coming out of Dustin's now don't match the events that actually occurred historically is not a perception that's just plain fact using the battery or concerns that yeah you're trying to get to the actual fact or just my perception that's not dead yeah that's that's true for me to get me to get absolutely hey that's our absolute it's a nobody can give up our backs but your options of that before huh I said you have no problem give me a fun fact have know what you have no trouble changing facts I can't the fact is you were allowed to see your children any time you wanted that's not my perception everybody who was there knows it everybody who saw the message I sent to you knows it it's not my perception and if you want me to stop that I'll have them at the time and I don't but I don't have an absolute they did not they have not seen that they have not seen I'm surprised they have not no they have not no no no no no no no I haven't seen our messages from that time they don't know you're not referring to a person who actually knows the truth so you can take somebody who you had access to you because you were living with them and you can take their perception which it got from the distorted facts that you were feeding them but that's not the same as someone who actually knows all right you'd so you don't it's going to have CNA pay for that class seriously don't bother oh gosh I don't know I mean I'm I'm very concerned that you don't actually have any intention of recognizing that you are a liar that you're lying is manipulative and that you're lying is abusive that is a big concern for me and I have every intention regardless of what they used to explore those issues with my therapists and hopefully involve you with a professional therapist at some point so that no matter what I am too when you say no matter what I do are you making commitment to not commit suicide ever even if I divorce you because that's an important commitment for you to make right now if you want to stop being abusive if you have any intention of not being manipulative if you have any intention of life if any of this is based on anything besides your complete and utter selfishness and manipulation then you're going to make that commitment and you're going to stick with that commitment and you're not going over on that commitment I don't agree with that that's not an unreasonable app it's an obligation that you have I don't agree with you about the children but if we're not married that's an obligation that you made when you got me pregnant I don't agree with you yeah that's you need to know that you're wrong you need to know that that's a manipulative and abusive and it's not okay I'm not something that would suck honestly the only reason that we're talking about is you're bringing it up and I can tell you you're going to divorce me you don't really have any could you don't have any choice it's not true we have children together that's not true you're lying to me and I don't need to believe lies but you don't have an obligation to me because I know that's not true it's not true you may children with them have an obligation to agree with you it's just but you have an obligation to not kill yourself and particularly if you want to convince me that you are loving me and doing this for me and care about me then you would make that commitment that's not a big out it's not going to be with you did you said it's not a big ask like what that's a pretty basic thing all right I'm not going to make your children I'm not going to agree to it you have children and you have children okay that's that's like the most basic thing that you can do as a father the most basic do you really think it's truthful that that after you found out that going to bail Florida was an overnight event I was upset about that and I was calling you repeatedly upset about it and that's why you block my number but you immediately unblocked it the next day not sure I understand your question is that does that feel truthful to you to tell people that I was upset that you were going like you kind of that you were going to bail Florida overnight and I was upset about that and so I was calling you repeatedly to harass you about it and that's why you had to block off didn't know that I was going to go further overnight I don't understand what you're saying because I was calling you repeatedly second number before you called me repeatedly no no you called me I have phone records showing that you called me while I was in the parking lot of the Sandwich Glass Museum you called me to check in and talk to you I guess I don't remember that but but did you block me because I was calling you repeatedly cuz I was upset I might be missing something here but the reason you were calling me repeatedly was because I've blocked you how do you do that how do you know that oh I don't I just don't remember you calling me repeatedly and then blocking you why did you tell her that you called me and it answered what did you tell honey like your reason was four blocks near wife's phone number since that makes no sense to anybody on the planet to block your wife's phone number what did you give them for a reason for it to make sense in your story okay you're still putting out I think you're asking me why I told honey like that I lost you and I think you're implying that I was trying to make it make sense and I don't think that it makes sense to block your wife I told them the actual reason I blocked you which is why I wanted to go to the party that I was invited to Thursday and that I didn't feel like you were on board with me going when we talked about it originally and I found out was going to be a longer and I didn't want to confuse he was about a month what I have always said so you wanted to hide from me the fact that you were going somewhere overnight and what you need from you you know you didn't want to argue about it I decided to give it off somewhere overnight I told you the next thing when I unblock to you hiding it from you it makes no sense because I wanted to go fast you mean you were just going to kick the can down the road and argue with me about it later