speaker 1: this call may be recorded yes hi how's it going I talked to my mom a little bit ago yeah she said I should buy that car off by that part with her credit card okay speaker 2: do speaker 1: you know where to order it I got to go look with that maybe they're yeah do you think maybe you should just have the shop do it oh no I mean I'm sure that would triple the cost right I don't ask for that right but it would be a healthy lifestyle change for you to recognize the you don't have time for that I don't know if I'm not comfortable asking her for that you could chuck you know what I mean check what it would cost yep so what else do you do today I takes a lot of my tools this is to the first podcast that you sent me I came over here and have a sandwich some about to go work on taxes would you do to your tools let's see I clean them they were not working supposed to do it every so many nails and I had never done it basically think I'm skipping your best friend now cuz I think I'm skipping your best friend now he calls me around huh that's possible oh hey I was I said you were treatment plans and I just wanted to clarify my assumption is that Nathan develop the treatment plans so that there will be a comprehensive plan in place for everything that you need to work on with your new therapist. The beaches that correct you feel like the treatment plans while you're at Honey Lake Freeman playing supposed to be primarily in my observation or impression the plane of what they do they are both oh but to be done within like a couple of days of getting there and he didn't finish 9 until about week that he was leaving which was after I was there for three years already I'm saying there's no way you actually did that stuff I don't think it really had any stuff for us to even do it it's not a nice one had like two or three months objectives and each objectives had two or three specific things that you had to do to have accomplished them okay why I believe that you need any more than just fill them out it doesn't seem likely for a short of time that you were there that you actually completed them all doesn't seem likely that you did any more than just get them sold out a way that they were sold out no we didn't I didn't even have it and he said I was basically ready to leave so well I mean you had it when you transferred to pet because you take the treatment plans and actually go down the list and say now let's do every single thing that this says you're going to do right you think that that's what happens supposed to function do it right when you get there and that would tell you what spend your time on for the rest of your time there yeah which itself is frustrating you guys are overly Broad and I don't know it just seems to me like there's you know four years worth of work off of 6th Street. I don't think I think I think they're pretty specific but to say we're going to get all this done in 30 days it's just silly I think at least you know your timeline yes right right right after ours ended Adam page came on to do the very next chapter of Hebrews I thought he was dead I didn't watch it yeah at the beginning of it but they turned off I got you as having fun imagining awkward it was there are other people who are doing it like as a family trying to sing along with the song they don't know yeah I just didn't seem those whenever the I'm just saying like there's some larger families where it might have been really awkward like the dad had it in his head that they were really going to be like a real worship service and they're really get a signal on and then all of a sudden the Sun comes on that nobody does know how to sing in key in the first place now looking at each other they're dead watch it yeah it's like I said I watched the first podcast that mean not really know what to say about it I don't really see myself that way but I also don't mind listening to that guy or trying to figure it out well what are you saying what what did you say what did he say we talked about that'd be used in domestic violence and emotional abuse and power and control and speaker 2: that speaker 1: he has a program well who do you see a spitting into that category speaker 2: what do you speaker 1: mean like when you say okay what what kind of person is he talking to would you think of faith that what you think of your mom would you think of one of your mom's boyfriend's think of my mom had a boyfriend that had her at one point and I think some people actually try and control things biggest one of them one of her boyfriends asking about if anybody ever paid anybody I'm saying like the dynamic and the overall lights way of approaching relationships like Chris was talking about did you see that man in that way all of the time that you spent with him not sure what you're asking me you talking about like an isolated incident like something that lasted like 5 Seconds I don't know I wasn't there right but you do the guy obviously like at some point you were sitting watching t yes, traction was you saw him with you I'm like did you always have a general sense of this guy is really bad to her or which is a problem you have a card for that I didn't see a car out there I thought good afternoon I was just asking you if other than knowing about that single incident if you had a general sense of that guy is being off kind of guy I don't remember he's got like in general all of the relationships were peaceful and healthy just end it because of a lack of commitment no you say you remember bad ones but that was over I wouldn't call them healthy relationships but I also other than that can think of very much that I would characterize as abuse we're just dysfunctional adult people being dysfunctional together well in a relationship where there's Mutual trust and mutual respect and mutual allowance for the other person's independent thousand people aren't trying to control or Homer hurt then you have a functional relationship hard to hard to see if I have a contract in which a relationship is dysfunctional that has no abused it really makes sense I don't know I think you have a very wide perspective of what constitutes abuse I guess I don't know but yours is overly natural to me so but you can you know you you can call us fluffernutter and the point is that there is unhealthy Dynamic that Chris is referring to okay and you can tell everybody if your life she did not use that word anymore I want you to call it fluffernutter but but it's still an existing contract that Chris has a specific way of defining and it's something worse like paying attention to and caring about I got to go love you love you too bye