speaker 1:  this call may be recorded press one to accept hello oh hey Dustin none of the kids going experience I don't want to go on a cruise I think Lucy is worried that she would miss her wife will get back cuz
speaker 2: she'd be under quarantine
speaker 1: month
speaker 2: and I think that scares the boys that she's
speaker 1: scared I'm sorry all right let me call them and they wanted like $500 a person anyways but they showing up I think they'd be more desperate these days yeah I don't think that's the priority if I heard what they were doing was they were taking everybody's already booked
speaker 2: cruises and prioritizing
speaker 1: them
speaker 2: so like if you try to cancel the view like free free alcohol the whole time you're on board if you'll still go or and wage or if you have one scheduled for like six months from now they'll let you move it to right now if alcohol for that kind of money that they're not trying to fill spaces with people who haven't signed up in the first place okay so I I don't I don't know I don't think I'll go oh so did you do anything off your list
speaker 1: yes I called okay that's it that's it
speaker 2: hi okay I was hoping you had emailed
speaker 1: test I have not email died yet okay who are you help today did you email him that.
speaker 2: Know according to what I understand from you seeing things like that hurts my credibility all
speaker 1: right I don't know
speaker 2: I just told him about how you seem like you would be interested in doing that online coaching program but you thought that he would strongly disapprove of their accountability model did
speaker 1: you have me on the email so I can see for it to me no
speaker 2: bye I don't know I can't I see it because the I think that that's the nature of the break down right now for you the dissonance that you're experiencing between your delusion and reality is related to you controlling what head nose and how he perceives it so that you can take his evaluation of it as being the final referee call
speaker 1: I spent a lot of money for that therapy or my mother did and I would like to go and have some sort of gauge of the accuracy of the feedback that I'm getting off a value his opinion at all if I don't know what sort of inputs he's getting so it makes it virtually
speaker 2: useless okay that's fine then I will send it to you and from now on you can say that you don't trust anything to excess is that fair not really you can be done with the headset or headset
speaker 1: horrible to have that therapy and to have I did. So you got all the way back that this kid you got all the office and
speaker 2: I know this in the middle in the middle of this and I didn't I waited till off like almost a
speaker 1: month after you just start didn't haven't had any contact with any usefulness of that
speaker 2: relationship not really that's fine the relationships over
speaker 1: then okay
speaker 2: then you think that I lie to Ted
speaker 1: that's fine too I know that you're not willing for me to be privy to what it
speaker 2: was but she never set never can you tell anybody you're representing that you inherently trust me to be honest no matter what you can't you can't make that claim anymore it is but you clearly don't trust me to give accurate perceptions so that's what you're claiming it's not true I know it's not
speaker 1: like I never claimed that you give a hundred percent accurate perceptions I don't think anybody should claim that I don't think any psychologist would believe that that was true with any one person okay
speaker 2: well a strong need for for you to whip up hold your delusions you have a strong need to make sure that people feel that anything I say is possibly just my perception based on me being an option there and that
speaker 1: I need her everywhere she ever took you to make sure that people can be very psychologists and they already
speaker 2: are aware of just really important to you that you can get here discount my perceptions off
speaker 1: in order you should not post your devices do you forthright with me about what's being said behind my back to professionals that I'm paying money for it has nothing to do with controlling you
speaker 2: not not forthright but I am saying that is important to you to know what the sex head so that you can control how much is just like a
speaker 1: reception that's important to you what and I know it
speaker 2: you need to control what he thinks I need to control what he thinks this is just my perception versus what you would agree with it's important to you and
speaker 1: everything that you say is your perception it's not
speaker 2: debatable okay well you know that Ted is smart enough to read something and know whether it's like a fact type of statement or an opinion type of
speaker 1: statement so he knows that there's certain things as in a fact type of statement or was it an opinion type of statement is Ted intelligent enough to differentiate that wage if you can't read a statement and oh okay she might be
speaker 2: lying about that maybe that's not actually what happened or to look at it and
speaker 1: say that's actually not the difference between the back
speaker 2: and then took in possession of how things happened maybe her impression is based on her subjective interpretation of Events maybe it's pretty accurate I have no
speaker 1: intention of that would suck represented those are also based on perceptions and that your perception of fact is not going to be the same as another person present at the same incident so it's not the most important exactly what
speaker 2: the doubt is that her trust your perception and he's out my perception that's important to you it's important to you that you
speaker 1: hear your story and go ahead and anguish out of my mouth off any time and place those are all the presents the idea that you just expressed about me the idea that I did Express is that if you're going to communicate with my therapist it would be helpful for me to be privy to show what's being said about me so that that relationship doesn't go to waste when it costs so much money but obviously you're not interested in that that you have a new system yes and I have an old therapist and perhaps I still need that relationship I don't know
speaker 2: is your intention to not let me be alone with your new
speaker 1: therapist no
speaker 2: do you feel like if I had a session or load with your new therapist before the next time you meet him then you would need to terminate that and find a new therapist. so if I talk to Ted verbally that's okay with you but if I email him then you have to know every
speaker 1: word no it's my therapist I should be able to say yeah that's appropriate or no that's not appropriate but if it's a
speaker 2: telephone conversation you don't really have a way to you know micromanage Pat the
speaker 1: way you want to managing anything
speaker 2: Thursday if it's if it's
speaker 1: an email very professional that I hired I should have the say of what happens with them not having a phone conversation is not present phone conversation
speaker 2: then it's out of your control let's say oh okay I
speaker 1: guess it's still professional that you hired
speaker 2: so if you're if what you are saying you're right to so what's being said if it's somebody you hired is really how you feel then you should be completely against me ever having a phone conversation with him
speaker 1: is there a reason that I can't see what you said it said no and actually be able to see it okay you should be able to see it
speaker 2: and
speaker 1: you should send it to me oh no I'm not doing what I
speaker 2: should you better text me feel guilty and ashamed hurry fast or I might not do exactly what I should I might misbehave
speaker 1: going to be a bad girl without your permission
speaker 2: hey Justin make sure I feel bad about myself that's the only way
speaker 1: oh no I'm out of controls what are you going to do I just spoke to you oh no so your perception is that we should deal with therapists that only you get to speak to in advance and then if I ever happen to talk to one that you should be able to go and talk about me behind my back is just utterly easier to do list but well I get back to work and kind of questions did that mean that you talked to Ted behind my back and it's dead no I've never received your access to that that mean the fact that you spoke to him participate with them Justin as much as I could they thought that it was disturbing how hard I tried to find out if you don't get to play that card anymore money what
speaker 2: I said you know that they thought it was disturbing how much it how hard I tried to contact them know that I participated to the full extent I was enabled but you're accusing me of doing something terrible by being able to talk about you behind your back and I'm doing something terrible by wanting to speak to a therapist before you
speaker 1: do, that's exactly what you did you talk to him for a long time and talked about me behind my back well I'm glad you got what you wanted did you say anything to you no I just emailed him before I called you I was calling you about that or tell me about the dark did you get the garden hose
speaker 2: off and the second one was showing that I didn't know what to do because it was all coiled inside the box and one end doesn't even have like the you know the metal nozzle at the end it's just like rubber cut
speaker 1: off so it's pretty automatic
speaker 2: rewind but then when I opened it up and like from the top I pulled the hose out a little bit dead I found a big gash out
speaker 1: of it that's where rat ate it so if there's not other holes I can probably cut it off right there and put a new nozzle on it
speaker 2: okay so what I should do for now is basically water out of that gas and then let you know
speaker 1: right and you could cut a check in with a pair of scissors if you
speaker 2: want oh okay do I need to save the metal tip off the end of it so that okay okay Thursday
speaker 1: you want me to come fix it
speaker 2: somewhat
speaker 1: 6005
speaker 2: know it's more important that you do what's on your list first especially the taxes all right oh do you want me to come over tomorrow morning since we're not going on upstairs sure yes or no yes okay all right I got to go back to work at McDonald's okay
speaker 1: they get home tomorrow and I don't know what time to be honest but is there a problem we'll just go somewhere else or play outside or something
speaker 2: okay bye