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speaker 2: this call may be recorded press hey how's it going Don okay all right that's not dead cuz they're on spring break did you say you hear me I said the kids are on spring break I guess you don't want to talk to me I I'm just a little stressed out but I can talk to you if you want to talk I was just busy earlier I wasn't trying to not talk to you did you do anything else but did you say have you done anything of ask you to do no asked you to file the taxes okay and then I asked him to get back yesterday I took Klonopin just if I had a car accident on the way home when I got home I went to sleep and not do anything what is a panic attack I don't know it's ninety is that like when I cry uncontrollably I don't know I do not drive it probably usually what do you do no it has six sides Friday now and I don't want to take another Klonopin well I do the Qantas in do I don't know what's the most dangerous thing that I have though you take it but you don't know what it does but do you think by 80 and make you have reduced reaction times then a weird way apparently using you were driving under the influence no did you take it before you drove home or after you drove home before you are under the influence of the month
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speaker 2: you can't do that anymore you have to get a ride home if you take that obviously not going to be able to do that you can't do that ever again you could kill another person you could kill somebody else's child you have to get a ride home if you take one of those okay I don't know only ever taken two of them since I've been back and my goal is to not take them when you make the decision making a decision to call back ask for a ride I have to go to my doctor's appointment do you have any other concerns to them questions or anything besides what I just said yes are you saying that you're going to talk to your doctor about that I guess I mean are you making that commitment to me sure you do it's none of my business what happens between you and your doctor that's between you and me okay I guess I'm not really concerned about that well I know I just need to understand your answers because you're being intentionally vague if that's not fair to me not being intentionally vague I'm asking you questions and you're saying things like I don't know I don't okay and it's it's not the same as saying yes I'll definitely get a ride or nothing no I definitely definitely going to drive while I'm taking that if I will have to like you're being intentionally vague so that I don't have any security of knowing about your physical safety and and and I'm not going to dictate to you what what goes on between you and your doctor you're making a decision to your doctor about that that's your decision not mine but what I asked you to talk to your doctor about that and you're intentionally vague that's a little unfair to me you could you could be honest and you can say no nothing to talk to my doctor about that could be honest and say yeah you don't specifically off do you want me to cuz I cuz you what I already knew that it can make you drowsy or something so it's not really I have a reasonable wage pay doctor just yesterday I took one I almost got in the car accident in the future should I take it and drive or should I take it and call somebody to give me a ride home stop the question home so again I'm not going to take what conversations happen between you and your doctor but conversations that happen between you and I I expect honesty and directness and I feel like you're being intentionally vague I will ask my doctor about it now you have a strong support network of people who will drop what they're doing at any moment I think I'm help you okay you do you have a very strong support network of people who love you very much and we'll drop what they're doing at any time and make time for you and care about your well-being and what's best for you even remotely true it is it is you're you're representing or representing the mental health professionals that you don't have a strong support works because you want to choose to be isolated from your support network that is true it is true and you would be much better off if you were living with that reality dead dead are you you don't have to answer me if you don't want to but are you I'm happy with your antidepressant right now I don't know I mean do you have an intention to ask for a change in dosage or medication or do you have an intention to ask for a continuance I don't know them. I know last time you need to change that was based on your request so that you know that their intention is to be responsive to your name that was based on what you're saying yeah anchor position I don't know about it I don't know what you call it something like that yeah it was because of your choice of vision problems and your complaints of what you call it like overly dulled promotions yeah that's why we switch to a different I yeah that's what I'm saying that was that was based on stuff that you were telling her so you I'm saying you know that your doctor is going to be responsive to your complaints to make adjustments accordingly I think they're supposed to tell your emotions and my vision better wage and Megan Megan said that you shouldn't have to deal with your you shouldn't have to live with that sense of gold emotions she said the right dosage should make you feel like you're not anything because it's meant to just take the edge off for a person who's feeling too much well that's what it does which is basically build emotions and you're comfortable with that level you know you don't want it like that I don't know I mean if you want to go off of them are you planning to tell your doctor that maybe but Megan said that you should wait like that six months or a year after you're symptom-free and then start the weaning yeah huh yes I feel like this whole conversation is designed to create a recording of the the supposedly unstable I'm sorry I'm sorry no no no no no I thought that you were I thought you were bringing up these topics because it would be helpful to you to have somebody just to talk through them and do you want me to call you back on your just regular phone no okay no I I don't at all want to I don't I don't I don't at all want to I don't want to do that I don't want to represent you as being unstable I just I care about you a lot that might be why you explain why you were I felt like you were being big though right I was not trying to be vague kind of give you accurate answers so I don't know don't even know that I'm never going to see them again yeah why would you only see your doctor Lawrence Define first appointment but yeah but I'm saying is that somebody you're going to see at least every couple of months or what's the year I don't know so I just said that you might never see him again it might be terrible oh you're saying if you don't like this doctor you would get a different one besides me who did you tell that you had a panic attack yesterday nobody Owens please did you tell Rodger though they're all missing today that they went out to lunch and I couldn't go though y for lunch with Rodger and his boss and one of our business partners and why didn't you go this is how the mat did you tell them why so so why did you use the word lift I think it's stupid that I'm not allowed to socialize with them probably dead why would they think that would you say yes I'd like an hour so she lives with us and I said no I can't go out to eat you said you can't go out and get like okay thank you Rodger said you're not allowed to socialize with us no Christmas Chris said you're not allowed to socialize with us and you said no I can't go out to eat making it sound like you're not allowed to go out to eat what's that I guess that's how you do it well I'm just wondering what you said if you said can't go out to eat and obviously you're the one who made the interpretation that they might imagine that God it's weird like in the lab too I came up with that first yeah I'm saying they they were saying you're not allowed to socialize if you countered with I'm not allowed to go out to eat are you countered with I can't go out to you which made it sound like something you're not allowed to do huh I don't know if they think that or not okay well I mean if if they said you're not allowed to socialize with us and you said no I can't go out to eat then yes that's what you're communicating or communicating you have unreasonable but my boundaries being placed on You by controlling person in your life it's not it's not analogous to saying I don't have any money you know what I mean
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speaker 2: know what I mean hello yep hello okay if you just be honest with people will understand the truth always makes a lot more sense do you want me to talk to Rodger or Chris not really are you sure seems like you have to you're spending time it seems like that's who you're spending time with and it would be good for you to be around people who can help keep you grounded spending time frame then what I'm not spending time around them they're just here for a meeting yeah so you were around them yeah that's what I'm talking about do you know if they will sign off on you getting your contractor's license not really I think they would have a choice you mean because they would be lying by being involved opponent home yeah have you met all the requirements hold on you're breaking up go ahead it's been a long time since I plugged but as far as I mentioned I haven't seen the desk thing I think hm I'm trying to figure out if you're the one who's breaking up or if it's because of somehow so you have been on the requirements all right say it now I think I've met all the requirements except for taking the past and do you get signed off by your employer before or after you pass the test do you remember that time we talked about the fact that Nathan was incompetent do you remember that time we talked about the fact that by the time we got to Ted she knew that you're about to have to discharge what no bunch of BS because they're the ones that made me discharge well even if they had let you extend another 10 days still would have been another ten days and I think even honestly if you had that 17 days a week but even if you just say I think that even if you had been with Ted from the very first day I think they always kind of have a timeline of expecting you to be there 30 to 40 days off some people have been there a lot longer than well I know I know I'm just saying I think that I think that some of the treatments do need at least this is what Ted expressed to me are really long term things things that you don't fix in a month or two months or three months and I think that aside from aside from getting you on depression medication and getting you motivated to you know see a therapist month I think that the kind of help that you need in general is Way Beyond the scope of what a place like honey like does I didn't Express to me that he thinks I have any sort of problem like that the reason in the rationale for them asking me to move on was that they didn't have any discernible issues for me to be working on like I had a new clinically dead we'll what it said say about your report from dr. Cobb not interested in getting in you sent it to him though right no I did not you told me that you sent it to him into Megan that I sent it to him into Megan's for that I was I thought both I thought one day you told me you had and so then I followed up with you about three days after that to ask if you had and you said you had I don't remember saying that and I don't remember doing it but I will double check so to your knowledge you you have not done that I remember okay well I understood from my conversation with Ted that that sort of thing was beyond the scope of what can be done in 30 to 40 days which leads me to believe that his main goal with you was making sure that you left ready to be in long-term counseling I don't know what to tell you any I don't think my new therapist you understand what I'm saying long term it needs to be long-term do you feel like Ted do you feel like Ted was recommending you see a counselor or long-term or do you feel like Ted was recommending you just see a counselor for three weeks after you get out if that's damn good it don't see a change or you didn't really say like that at all what didn't really quick for that keep asking about something difference sure I woke up this morning there was this young girl in the bathroom that I'm supposedly
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speaker 2: and her son with sitting on what's his face is bad in that bedroom next to that bathroom I was just expecting anybody to be there obviously so I just kind of shocked that grab my toothbrush and toothpaste and I headed into Grandma's room to brush my teeth in there so and I'm walking now there there's clearly somebody on that bad the covers are all you know messed up and they've completely covered themselves but you can see a body shape under there I'm like oh like somebody in here and I go out to make my coffee and like minded my own business and look over on the couch and there's another blanket completely covering a body shaped something anyway I have no idea who those people were cuz I wasn't going to uncover them but do I need to proactively tell CA that that went on what were your instructions the only thing they really told me was to keep the keys to their nights are Subarus so that it wouldn't go on Joyrides that's it and who do you know it's definitely supposed to be staying there dyschezia oh and you're all well I was getting ready for work she took the old Subaru I think took that kid to school and then as I was pulling out she was pulling back in touch with it I actually have to help I have to help the kids real quick okay I got a doctor's appointment so I just say anything okay I think I need to help them to be found by by