speaker 1: this call may be recorded morning speaker 2: hi in Ponte Vedra speaker 1: I'm in Newport right now how's it going speaker 2: good did you listen to our call last night speaker 1: no sorry when they're supposed to speaker 2: that's definitely what you told me you were going to do speaker 1: I'm sorry speaker 2: cuz the part where I told you what you could have said yeah you think I thought you were going to write it down and call me and read it back to me yes I'm sorry that last night's already over would you do last night instead speaker 1: hooked up the hard drive yeah need another power strip yeah that's a speaker 2: apartment at what apartment speaker 1: that well I say I have there's one at the downstairs apartment I was going to get oh okay speaker 2: I got a horrible application yesterday speaker 1: oh yeah speaker 2: yeah we're speaker 1: only four of all that it speaker 2: was just like credit score speaker 1: 453 okay speaker 2: self-employed hairstylist self employed caregiver without any like work reference phone numbers you know speaker 1: yeah smoker how to send me like that every rent a place speaker 2: I think generally they would have to live with someone else which I think is what she doing right now which I'm just telling you might like intuition on it I think can end up being well essentially being speaker 1: in speaker 2: unhealthy relationships for the purpose of having housing and also in shared living situations that are not good for the children involved yeah and of course while you're doing that your credit score could be speaker 1: improving right off speaker 2: because stuff falls off of your report and you can stop missing payments speaker 1: definitely reminds me of my mom Fairly New speaker 2: Year's oh that's an you never mentioned it before you think that some of her relationships were because she couldn't get a speaker 1: rental it hadn't occurred to me before but yeah and she had you know quote on quote roommates early on that clearly am not being relationships I don't know if they would just misrepresented or developed into that as a co-dependent thing I and I guess speaker 2: yeah it makes sense like all the money is that that person was contributing to rent was money that she was able to spend on something else instead speaker 1: pretty much sorry that I hurt you I will listen to that call speaker 2: yeah like on my end I hate it enough that you are basically telling me that I have to dictate your life behaviors and dictate your actions do you because that's not who I am and that well in order for you to do it you're not going to wake up one day and decide to make good financial decisions yourself you're not going to wake up one day and decide to manage your time while yourself like the only way it's going to happen is if I divorce you if you don't not a situation I ever would have chosen is not a situation that I like it's not a situation that is respectful of me and it's not a situation that is flattering me I really really really really really don't like it don't like the role I've been cast in I don't like it and I don't like like I feel like your leverage leveraging you having to react to the situation you've created this way to let me look and feel even worse trying to make it like I don't have to do this and I'm just like doing that because I'm controlling speaker 1: well I don't speaker 2: understands I think it's interesting that when I talk about what you need to do in front of somebody else like wage front of CA you can act all like understanding toward me and submissive toward me and willing to do whatever to help me secure toward speaker 1: me am doing speaker 2: right but if it's just the two of us it's this cold it's it's this cold attitude like okay okay all right you know what I mean like there's a reason you don't talk that way in front of CA and there's a reason that you don't show the tenderness and willingness and compassion when it's just the two of us speaker 1: I don't understand you honey I don't know how I can do more for speaker 2: you well if you were to treat me when it's just the two of us on the phone the same way that you tricked me Wednesdays at the table and I am fine because when he's at the table you take my concerns seriously and you take the things I'm asking you to do as being legitimate speaker 1: requests I understand that we don't agree about speaker 2: you don't talk this way to me in front of him is what I'm speaker 1: saying because we going to trying to get me to agree with you in front of him cuz I mean that I agree with you because I speaker 2: am not know that's not true that's true it's not true I'm not doing anything different I'm not trying to get you to agree with me I'm telling you that you being so cold and ugly and offensive about it is casting me into a role of being controlling you're treating me as though your opinion about how you should be allowed to do all this stuff that's damaging to our family is more legitimate and my opinion about how you should do it this way is Leslie Smith and you're having to bow down and lower yourself to the lowly level of doing things the wrong way because she's controlling you don't say I disagree about this we're not going to agree like you don't talk to me that way in front of you don't talk to me that way in front of see a month when there's a third party present who's capable of weighing in in saying that the things that Aaron is asked you to do or reasonable you behave as though the things are in is asking you to do are reasonable and in so doing you are tender and your kind and you are warm and you don't cast me into a role of being controlling and witchy and everything's okay is there a reason you behave that way in front of other people and that's because it's acceptable to behave that way there's a reason that you don't make an issue out of making me feel bad for being controlling and it's because it's not really acceptable to treat your wife's that way in these circumstances I hate this I hate this whole situation. Like I don't I don't like being like this l I don't want to act like I should control your thoughts feelings and attitudes any more than I want to be the one who has to control your actions I don't like this doctor thought you needed twice weekly counseling have you made any appointments yet speaker 1: do you still want me to wait for his office to call and make a speaker 2: recommendation I think that it is your health care and it's up to you speaker 1: I didn't understand what you said about exceeding my feelings or something can't dictate feelings speaker 2: oh on the phone yesterday originally all I wanted to do was like help you know like you could take this week when you get off of work each speaker 1: evening when I could speaker 2: what what actionable steps you could take each evening when you get off of work this week like actions like just you know what I mean things you can do because when we were deciding to move into the McDonald's the conversation that we had was that they said that you were welcomed as long as you were showing a willingness to do that I'm asking you to do to restore our marriage that was the condition and you knew that the first thing that you were going to be asking asked was to let me manage the finances while you live on an allowance and it was like very very very clear to you like it was explicitly stated that there was a way more, you would need to do and they couldn't tell you a whole list of everything that was going to be required but the first was the money and as you're given all the other actions and all the other requirements expected to show it willingness to do them in order to keep living with the McDonald's and so I was telling you this week like there's a requirement expected to focus on getting caught up on all the taxes and you're expected to quit vaping I'm speaker 1: not going to quit vaping this speaker 2: week I know I know but like I thought that I was giving you actions that you could take to restore our marriage you understand what I'm saying actions like those are actual things you can do or speaker 1: behaviors doesn't really have anything to do with the speaker 2: motion right except that when I told you that didn't respond to me the way you would have responded if they were sitting at a table with c a so it wasn't my intention to tell you how you had to feel about the requirements intention to say that you have to agree that those are the right things wasn't going to say that you have to have a certain attitude about it like wasn't ever my intention to then turn around and say you need to say these words in response to the telling you actions you can take however your response was very cold and your response was emotionally punishing to me and I cannot stay in this role of being the one to tell you what actions you should be taking if I'm going to get emotionally punished for delivering that information to you I wasn't expecting you to respond so quickly to me I wasn't expecting to feel emotionally punished I was expecting you to have an appreciative joyful attitude about hearing the actions wage similar to how you have an attitude with you have the opportunity to start by living out allowance and the appreciative joyful attitude that you showed that would have the McDonald house sitting down to see a that was what I expected wage and if you have that appreciative beautiful attitude then this can work because I can lower myself and I can sink down to the pathetic level of being a woman who tells her husband what to do because that's a sacrifice I'm willing to bake it over for a relationship to work but I can't do that if you're going to punish me emotionally for being willing to take on that burden like if that's how you going to get treated when I tell you what needs to happen then I can't tell you what needs to happen and we can't be married I just can't do it it is as much as I hate being the one to tell you that you need to do the taxes I even more hate being the one to tell you when I tell you to do the taxes you need to respond by saying these words to speaker 1: me I do not need you to tell me the taxes have been asking for my hard drive for well over a month speaker 2: okay that's a great example when you cannot treat me speaker 1: it's a great example of what actually happened speaker 2: so it's no blame-shifting Dustin 2018 taxes were due back March 2019 and then after the okay so the extension they were not and I didn't have your heart speaker 1: and you were in the beginning throws at the Berkeley Maze and all of our financial accounts speaker 2: terrible terrible terrible to me I didn't deserve any of what you just said this can't work can't work it's not my fault but they don't stop all that you didn't file taxes on time that's not my fault speaker 1: it's your fault that I didn't file taxes on time speaker 2: yes you are yes you're saying you had my hard drive for a month off and you were the one in the throes of divorcing me taking over all accounts you cannot do that you can't you can't you can't do that speaker 1: okay I won't do that well not do that speaker 2: I don't speaker 1: like this either and I don't want you to be sad speaker 2: well it's awful what was awful about speaker 1: it but awful about speaker 2: it I don't need you to tell me to do taxes that's awful about speaker 1: that long not you're telling me you don't want to have to tell me to do taxes speaker 2: the case with the taxes are done does it does it become when you shave me for being a controlling light bulb you're acting like you're acting like I'm delusional and I taking up this idea but that's something that needs to be done to restore our marriage you're making it seem like I'm just controlling like I just making up things to just try to control you about that is not okay, it's not an okay way to frame what kind of life I am not okay speaker 1: the speaker 2: truth is that the taxes needed to be done a long time ago the truth the actual truth is that accounting should be entered as it happens years later the truth the actual truth speaker 1: the accounting was entered I can't find it because all of my stuff has been disassembled so it's just stop like that sucks it doesn't Okay speaker 2: because it's all hard after the. Like not okay for you to do irresponsible things for years and years and years and years and then try to blame it on some something somebody else did in response to that after the fact like the really not good with speaker 1: the accounting isn't done computer kind of going to have to be done speaker 2: and it's not because of me it's not because of me there's a reason the taxes were not filed and it's not because of me as a reason the taxes when they filed and it's not because of me I just think way back after the fact after the fact years after the fact of you neglect years after that way after the back way way later and I was acting in self-defense I was off after as of December I was acting in response to all these really bad things but latent lie with complete disregard for how they were affected me and my life to you I just can't take all the reaction in January and say that's the cause of everything that happened prior to January you can't do that speaker 1: the taxes have not affected I can't speaker 2: I can't that's not true you're a liar of course it's affecting the dance is affected you because every year I spend weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks feeling bad about myself not giving you enough time alone in your office when seriously know that other men don't spend as much time making their wives feel like they need to take care of them household by themselves otherwise they're a failure as a wife to give their husbands the time they need to work on taxes we know this has affected me profoundly it is sucking your children profoundly and wage have not gone to the springs in Bell Florida ever the entire lifestyle is disgusting and unworkable you treated very badly you blame everything on me speaker 1: I'm blaming anything I yes you do do you turn the speaker 2: blame I mean you're done and dusted off okay tell me what when it happened and I just can't access it because you ruined everything with my computer's this is not okay this is not okay and I'm saying the fact that you've been treating me this way all along was what I needed to escape and other people saw that I needed to escape our children will not be okay and it's because of the toxic environment that you create in our household and I was not able to turn in my inventory disclosures because you have not done on taxes and I was looking for disclosure he's speaker 1: what you can still turn in your disclosure speaker 2: he's I think item number one is tax speaker 1: returns. Okay so you could turn in the rest of it I know and I speaker 2: did but that doesn't mean that I'm actually able to divorce you without the taxes done you know that it's a barrier about to get legal freedom from you know it's not what this is all about. And higher lifestyle of every moment of every day being controlled by you and you're struggling thinking and your responsibility and your inability to complete tasks in a timely manner and you taking 1,000 times as many minutes on any given project as the number of minutes that that whole project actually requires in order to get done efficiently in a way that serves a healthy lifestyle so me saying that I can't divorce you that's a microwave for for me to say that I can't get legal freedom from you because the taxes aren't done is a micro issue it's it's like it's like 1 million of a percent of the problem but it is the problem it pervades every aspect of your life speaker 1: this is about getting the taxes so you can lead me you got $400,000 in equity speaker 2: that will cover the speaker 1: rest of the taxes for the rest of your life speaker 2: you know but you can't do a settlement settlement with the paperwork but that is one one speaker 1: millions of a percent of the problem if you don't like if you don't want me to do it don't enslave me to do it like this from now on because I don't have this problem speaker 2: anymore, Justin you do it's a problem it's a big problem there is no reason for you to not be able to enjoy Recreation with your own family there is no reason for you to spend as much time on these work tax money you spend all these work tasks no reason I'm used to have an entire for what does not actually take up that much space there is no reason for it to be a system that other people can operate in Access usually there is so speaker 1: many other people can other people can fax it doesn't have to be broken know it's something that I'm describing things I have actually speaker 2: happened to describing off of a result of your behavior and you're blaming those speaker 1: on my hard drive I do have done in your life you speaker 2: led to that everything that you have done is current owners were to that need to put ownership of what you have that open which includes your hard speaker 1: drive I break it I take responsibility for it speaker 2: I need to take responsibility for what you speaker 1: did exactly what I'm speaker 2: saying I'm going to see you were cheated on me with that hard drive home like thousands of hours like you don't have to explain to you wonderful going out and roasting your own coffee after while your wife is alone in her bed is not normal other men do not do that it doesn't function it's not okay okay speaker 1: I like racing my own coffee and it I don't know it's not normal it's not normal didn't say it was like that it's not speaker 2: normal I like doing it off but insurance but if you had a hobby that you enjoyed that would be speaker 1: okay but you don't have a hobby you speaker 2: enjoy it I know but you remember things that you would have to do in order to be okay that take up longer amounts of time and don't leave home and speaker 1: everything coffee take 15 minutes a week and that's not an unreasonable thing for me to do not but it's not the only thing you have you have an entire system to babysit speaker 2: like not any one of these things but when you add them all together Google go to the screens with your own family does not okay you need Julie because your life is not normal you need to have a normal life and it's not working because all of these things more than you love your own speaker 1: family that's not true speaker 2: it is true it's you have to walk you got to recognize you don't have a spare time for that and if you're going to have a 15-minute hobby should be having is it going to have a 15-minute hobby it should be getting in bed with your white and looking at her eyes and caring about her name is a week but if you don't have 15 minutes for that you don't have 15 minutes to rinse copy you just don't I think that's fair I know but it's not just the coffee roasting Dustin speaker 1: if we wanted to add it depending that the server requires some kind of interaction of that month well you are speaker 2: no I'm not no I'm not no I'm not I'm not I'm not home and plug it in but couldn't plug it in all the way because you need a search protector that's not normal don't need took extra stuff just to access your files unnecessarily complex system speaker 1: I like it and argue with you right now I got to go back to work outside not speaker 2: working off and stopping you from having nothing in normal life it's unnecessarily complex to reach your own copy it's unnecessarily complex to have your own server system and that's like again talking about life about it speaker 1: particularly abnormal speaker 2: on their own selves that I'm only talking about like less than a small fraction of your life stops you from being able to love your family if it was just speaker 1: do you want to make a comprehensive list of like the things that I enjoy that I'm not allowed to do and then I'll see how many of them I can get rid of for speaker 2: you that's ridiculous well I think the two that you selected are ridiculous nobody speaker 1: else is a minute roasting coffee and a server that holds my file since I've been speaker 2: ended up with depression because of the fact you're the one who cheated on me with Julie because of these behaviors you're the one lost my phone number because of these behaviors I didn't cause any of that I'm not the one who's showing up with some kind of a wage doesn't come up on my own with all my goodness Heroes Coffee this is a problem he needs to quit like if that was who I am that would have happened like fourteen years ago but I'm not like that Dustin I'm not like that I don't control you I don't tell you how to spend your time I do tell you what your hobbies should be I stand back and let you self-destruct you know that about me know I don't control you you know that you destroy your own soul before my eyes with my complete undying love and support you know that about me treating me like dirt because I'm telling you what happened in front of my own eyes trying to tell me that I want to control make a list of all my hobbies that I'm not allowed to do anymore like yeah I have a wife he wants she look how long does list is I think that I'm not allowed to do that I love everything that I love she put on this list I'm not allowed to do anything I have a wife who doesn't want me to do anything I like like like that's who I am it's it's absurd we're absolutely absurd to not stand up and say I'm my responsibility to everything that is stopping me from honoring us not my tap to look to my life to tell me what to do but this isn't working it hasn't worked for a long time I have depression because of my own behavior independent of anything my wife has done or not done it was calling you calling me to try to apologize for how I cannot do math really about not reacting coldly cuz I'm willing to have some Grace the possibility that your initial reactions are going to be cold when I'm eating you to do things that aren't what you would have chosen on your own but if it was just your initial reaction it's a little different than actually your core belief about me like I don't think that marriage can withstand a corbel least that your wife is trying to control you like if if it's c a saying you know Aaron tell him what you want he'll do anything Aaron he's sitting right here saying he'll do anything you say so all you have to do is tell them like that makes sense to him because when he tells his wife that it's off of actual love and concern for her welfare but when you tell me speaker 1: that concerned for your welfare speaker 2: because your heart of telling me speaker 1: tell speaker 2: me what you want me to do is not a heart of I really screwed up and not loved her well and I obviously have some major deficits in being able to see what choices I should be making and how I can love my family and the only way I'm going to do it is if I can trust other people's judgments like if that was the heart then it would be a workable situation it would be it would be in the same situation. Because your response is you're trying to control me your response is we completely disagree I'm not going to agree with you your responses you don't have to tell me to do that your responses it's your fault that I need to do that your response is worth trying to divorce me in responses you have my hard drive like like none of those responses those are facts that feeling and a none of those responses arkenberg Kristen with attitude towards Jani like none of those are yes I do yes we do because when you're looking at what your wife needs in order to feel secure that you're actually going to spend time with your family and be kind concert with your family and love your family that's what you focus on not blame shifting onto your wife for telling yourself that you should have figured out yourself years ago like behaving like ca is going to work if you can like display the attitude they would behave but we can't have you behave like saying oh I'm going to do whatever my wife says because I love her and then have the attitude this is ridiculous my wife is controlling she's making up all this stuff I don't even have a problem with that in the first place I don't know why she says these things about me off it's her fault that I don't have the taxes done like if CA had that speaker 1: attitude towards nobody said that it's your fault that we don't speaker 2: have that attitude towards it wouldn't work took him to say that she needs to tell him what she needs it it ceases working it only works when your attitude and that is genuine your attitude towards me has not been genuine it being willing to hear what I need you to do it feels like entrapment speaker 1: has it been lately speaker 2: it feels like entrapment like hey I'll do whatever you ask you to do just tell me what you need me to do so that I can post it around on you and make you feel controlling and make you feel bad and make you feel like your judgement isn't as good as mine and remind you that I don't need you to tell me what to do but how I guess I have to because I have me over the barrel like it's like oh you told me that it was safe to tell you what to do but turns out that was a trick I can't believe I fell for it I feel pretty dumb why am I so dumb that I keep falling for it why am I so dumb that when he tells me that it's safe to tell him what to do I actually tell them what to speaker 1: do and that you wanted to tell me what to do speaker 2: I know but why am I dumb enough to keep doing it when you just twist it around on me like you just Gathering all this evidence that I'm a controlling life you know just reminding me at every turn that I should like that my choices are wrong that you completely disagree with that's why we're seeing it happen speaker 1: you disagree with me so you're choosing I disagree with you and I'm letting you choose speaker 2: but I if what you've decided is that what needs to happen is whatever I say then you're in complete agreement with me by default absolutely everything if your if your decision is Tom needs to happen is whatever Erin chooses then the fact that I choose something means you read agreement but that's what needs to speaker 1: happen it doesn't there and I'm choosing the speaker 2: Japanese you were saying this I dusted that what needs to happen with the situation and I have determined that if there's something Aaron wants to have happens that is definitely the best path forward because she's choosing it and you to do what she's choosing ergo by default and definition when I say that something needs to happen you agree because that's what you've predetermined that you agree that whatever I say needs to happen is actually Thursday forward because we're speaker 1: going with that I agree with it speaker 2: it does by default you would you agree that it's speaker 1: what has to happen and you do it speaker 2: completely on the basis of this is what Aaron wants that's all the support that that argument needs speaker 1: Aaron wants speaker 2: in and of itself is enough evidence is it enough evidence that the best path forward Aaron wants it in and of itself is enough evidence for you to agree that it's definitely the best path forward and if you don't feel that way then saying I want to know what you want and I'll do whatever you choose is just a set-up it's a direct setup if it's going to be the truth that that's what you've chosen the best possible or you need to believe and behave consistently with that speaker 1: hi Darren William choosing to let you choose speaker 2: I know and what I'm saying is that if that's the case then your attitude and your warmth and your demeanor towards me it's to not change when you find out what it is that I want like with anything I you tell you that you can do should fill you with joy at the opportunity to restore our marriage if you're being filled with contempt and disdain and resentment that you don't like what I'm choosing then you should stake that be the plan in the first place is because that's not fair to me can't expect me to put myself in that vulnerable of a situation you can't expect me to allow them to actually be any truth to your mom's idea that I'm trying to have power and control like that's not safe for our speaker 1: children I don't understand that you're literally describing wanting to choose speaker 2: everything I know and I'm saying if you're going to frame that as me being controlling wage then which conquest and we need to divorce like tomorrow cuz it's not a workable situation as you choosing that you're the one who's choosing it you're the one who's choosing it and you need to own that consistently and if you're not going to do it consistently consistently then you shouldn't shift in and out of saying that's what you believe needs to speaker 1: happen and choosing a cuz you want it do you think it would be deferential to speaker 2: you I know but if you're going to use it against me every time you find out like that's not going to work if you were actually being deferential in the event that you need the do the taxes you'd be excited about that it'd be like awesome I think I can have 2018 done by Friday and if I work really hard I could probably have 2019 done by Tuesday and let me go check and see how much TurboTax cost I'll get back to you on that like that would be your attitude if you actually held the belief that you're claiming to hold if you actually believed that you can restore things by being deferential but you don't you actually believe is that you can get out of this thing by Framing me as being completely wrong and you being not only completely right but also deferential to controlling woman who is messing everything up by her poor judgment speaker 1: I'm trying to get out of speaker 2: completely different I know but I'm just saying I'm just saying it's every time I tell you something that needs to happen you're going to make it seem like you have better judgment on that and I have poor judgment on that and I'm controlling and you're not controlling and you're deferential only because you're not so heroic like that is not going to work not going to work you can't do that you can't make me the villain all the time you can't be the victim all the time it doesn't work it's not okay it's not that's not you being deferential that's not being loving that you making me a scapegoat this situation is really bad it's a really horrible situation that you created and if you want to let me figure out a way to make it work then you should have nothing but appreciation for my willingness to figure out something that's going to make it work not take every opportunity you can to point fingers at me for the solution I'm coming up with when I didn't create the situation there's never going to be a good solution because the Iraq situation sucks because you made it that way and you won't take ownership of how bad you screwed everything up speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you honey I don't want you to be unhappy you're right I don't think that I screwed everything up that bad other than our relationship and I don't know what else I can do for you I'm giving you what you want because like you want you to be happy and content and get speaker 2: wage when I tell you what action you can take you should say anything that would have a way I could show up to you speaker 1: today that's something I can do that I'm doing that by doing what you're asking me to do I don't but that's not what you said speaker 2: you said okay all right speaker 1: I'm speaker 2: going to go now but you're using this currency for me to say my own children like like those are that's your actual attitude about me getting your way that you can love me speaker 1: okay I'm sorry that how how speaker 2: was that how was that loving me in response to knowing what it is that I need to feel secure how is that supposed to make me feel secure how does that speaker 1: work do what you want from me speaker 2: check that you say that you should say yes I'm changing to do taxes you should say right now so that I can get started immediately I have all the way to your house to pick it up hey do you want to meet me half way with the computer so that I can get started even sooner I can't wait to finish taxes so that I can start spending time with you guys at the office I mean those would be like responses that are consistent with what you just told me that that you're doing things because you want to show love to me that that would be consistent response that would say oh yeah that sounds but you're not you're not behaving consistently behave inconsistent with a man who wants his wife to make the decision so that he can blame stuff on her so we can say I have to do this because my wife telling me to do this even though it is a good speaker 1: decision oh I have to do is find your taxes what I think it's fine to do taxes speaker 2: I know but you're making a big issue out of how you've speaker 1: ever done anything wrong on taxes before well that's what I think speaker 2: it's never been never will be okay cannot do you cannot do it cannot live your life that way not okay you're speaker 1: wanting me to think the same way about things that you do and I don't it's still going to do the taxes cuz you're asking me to do them interested in arguing about speaker 2: anything then you shouldn't have treated me that way yesterday. And that I traded up to your tax and that you would do the same thing else Diego that is possible logical tax preparation destroying your family destroyed your own soul causing the project speaker 1: name could not understand what you said about pathological something they speaker 2: topological pathological tax preparation pathological off doing your family and destroying your soul it's not okay and it doesn't matter if you think about it differently than I think about it your family still going to get destroyed by it so I don't care how you think about it I don't care if we disagree about it it's not okay 1 million out of 1 million people could look at the situation and say the same thing speaker 1: I'm sorry that I was close to you yesterday work on being better about that long and I'm sorry but I really have to go thank you I love you and I want you to be happy thank you do you need speaker 2: any smoking cessation supplies speaker 1: no that's a vaping is it is not speaker 2: it is not it is speaker 1: not no thank you all so I bought two pizzas when I did my food run and the boys over there hate them they were supposed to be like for money speaker 2: whereas her did you ask them for two pizzas speaker 1: know I mean simultaneously with me figuring that out offered me some of like a different Pizza that he had made which I so long to be like oh so you still might Pizza is but okay speaker 2: I speaker 1: don't know the same thing I guess I guess it would just speaker 2: be more peanut butter jelly at the end of the month right have you called the speaker 1: Quitline the what Quit Line speaker 2: they can help you come up with an actual plan which you're going to need never going to quit by saying I'm quitting tomorrow you're going to quit by writing down it an actual speaker 1: plan I'm depressed and I have anxiety and when you do this to me it gives me more depression and anxiety so speaker 2: I didn't I didn't do something to you Dustin off okay I I really got to go to work I didn't do something I do I didn't do something trying to speaker 1: help me speaker 2: okay but I didn't do something to speaker 1: you okay thank you for not doing something for me I appreciate you I'm speaker 2: not telling you stuff that's going to make your life force you know that speaker 1: okay I really have to go I'm sorry no it's okay you can go speaker 2: all speaker 1: right good night bye