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speaker 2: this call may be recorded hi and where are you 14th Street y you know take a break at the house heading towards now towards towards our house on North 14th Street no okay why can't you have the kids over a little bit strapped down I need to find out with them if they're okay having kids over you got that time time to figure it out Once you pull over and call them when why don't you just ask them if they're okay having kids over at that time I'm going to huh I'm going to like now at 12:30 whenever I get there the last name 12:30 age of the I'll be able to look after them see all right I'm trying to get soon as I can so it's okay today is probably not a good day I would like to see them I know when when is your next therapy appointment confirmed recieving my paperwork sounds to me like today is not a good day cuz you've got other stuff you need to do okay if that's the case then I'm probably not going over there yet hold over where back to the McDonald. Where you going bye. okay all right sorry I upset you don't like you to get that way I wish I'd that we could get along really don't want to argue with you I don't think that you should so you need to stop arguing with need to stop asking me to agree with you about stuff that we don't agree about the need to I think that you're going like to make it in this world you're going to need to accept that there's some things about the way you perceive human interaction that is very far off for reality but you need to stop asking me my opinion I don't know that I necessarily agree with that but I don't want to argue with you and I I think those primary requirement my most Dom negotiable before having control finances before anything my most absolute need in order to ever be in a relationship with you is that you determine that you are going to trust the Judgment of other people then you need to not ask me for my opinion you need to not argue with me people need to be able to tell you stuff and you accept that it's true people need to be able to say what what you were doing with child abuse his wife don't agree with me like I don't value my opinion you don't need to ask for it so okay that's actually my fault that you've done what you've done to me I've never said anything that I've done is your fault you know I believe that what you're saying right and rationally good is what that means is that you're not having said anything else you said is good for you to not file a motion for a temporary needs for 50% time with the children while the advice of our elders and I did so you did that was manipulative for you to claim that you were finally following the advice of the elders in that it is extraordinary beneficial not interested in arguing with you off then don't say I did that on the advice of my contact me about it don't I'm not asking you about it I'm telling you I'm giving you information it's important information for you to know wage you can't come to it by your own logic because your own logic does not work the only way you can come true if you listen you listen to what I'm telling you log into what you're telling me and I don't agree I think you do the stop asking me for my opinion if you don't care about it so you need to change your opinion so that I am not being asked to put myself in a position to be re-victimized by you you're not a safe person with the opinions that you hold your very dangerous person with the opinions that you hold the way that you feel the time I can do what you're up to you to do not a puppet so they know everything with you if you don't want to argue with me that don't force me into talking about stuff where we don't agree I just you know understands I don't know I don't know how to help but because you can't claim that you've done that to me and I'm a victim of yours while also taking every single instance of abuse that somebody can name for you and saying that was you acting honorably and good I've said there's no Contrition should have done differently in these things that don't even that bad like not abuse things and you weren't to act like you're all set for those if we do the things that I receive that I actually did and I am sorry for them and if I don't perceive that I did something I mean if you're talking about this thing you say that I'm not saying that's notarized that's easily verifiable literally zero point in arguing about that we could just look at it the reason we're having a conversation about whether you signed it or not is because you're trying to deny responsibility for the content which iPhone is manipulative and strange and not a normal way to go about that content you know the home school your thing he said I don't you don't understand how this thing works clearly you don't you're claiming that I told him what to put in his paperwork and that's not true I know when I should be characterizing from a legal perspective but he didn't go to that I have a right to 50% of my children's time and you expressed that you don't want need have our children for fifty percent of the time according to what's normal in the court system that is abnormal and manipulatives is adding characterizes from the context of situation because you weren't filing for temporary needs I didn't file for temporary nice because he told me that you didn't want me to have the children except for every other weekend and one night a week and you asked me to follow the others and they told me to give you whatever you wanted wage you can't use that against me to make me look bad I'm not using it against you that leave that that we should be following what the court would have you follow then you should file a motion not visit my question that you're complaining about it you're trying to make me look bad for not giving you the 50% and I was never even actually given that opportunity and I asked you repeatedly in your app thing that you saying has the record says you have 50% of the children if it did all my contacts for that was when you asked if I would keep the kids for you from 6:30 a.m. until 5 a.m. After Case of wanted more time with the children I thought you would be joyful about it but you didn't do it and I should have gone then he would have gone and you would have gotten after care and you would have filed a motion and you would have had the kids every other week and have the other plane time with my children I I did no such thing and you know that there were others who were telling you that you could go ahead and file that motion the else would never got together and said that back to you. we need to use this man for wanting to spend time with his children let's write a letter where we say that this man is spinning by trying to spend time with his children and that we're not going to support him and trying to spend time with that's not what happened so you should decide because of the matter is what I'm saying that you have to do not want to argue with you I don't I don't want to see if it's a it's a letter can pull up the ladder and you can look at it like why are we arguing that the letter but I'm saying the fact that you're having to distort things that are black and white on paper in order to make up a contract that fits the way you want to feel that you do victimized you probably not done things wrong but it did that's kind of have to make anything up and I don't choose to do any of those options in order to make yourself a victim of the elders and in order to suck really really bad legalization carried out against me and the really bad mom shaming that you carried out against me for what wasn't my fault which was the fact that you chose was on your own pick your own brain not the file a motion that wasn't my fault you just put that that you were not bothering about it in this very conversation and they this is dead I can't argue with you anymore I can't I'm just saying if the courts so so keen on making sure you have 50% shouldn't have been a conversation between us ever because you would have walked in there absolutely would give me 50% and we never saw the computer because I didn't want you to do that in court if you actually probably would have to talk about with the Court's a couple decided but you wouldn't do it whatever you want to do and how different it is from getting divorced and I have a file that single Hearing in court because I am not interested in getting divorced is it and you're also not interested in stopping victimizing me you're walking around telling people and keeping your children from you that's not my fault anybody talking to anybody that that you picked them up and took them to school and then had them go to Africa told me I'm not allowed to have them I did not I did not the only thing I've said about your name was twenty-four seven day or night the restrictions all the time every time I ever happen to ask for them all right that's not you know which argue with you age it does not want to argue it's not you know it's not true going to have to go tell me why you have to make up an actual life so you actually asked the kiss and I actually turned you down ever in order to support this convoluted idea that your wife kept your children from you there for your event of pointless conversation dead it's a lie it's a lot you can't get to sound conclusions if you're starting with false premises and we do not agree so but we have the proof we actually have those messages we can actually appreciate whatever you want I've already told you whatever you ask me for that's what I'm going to give you a zero interest in argue that you can't tell me conversations you have your attorney what you were telling me at the table today that you can't tell me conversations you had with your attorney yeah violates our attorney-client privilege did he really tell you that. Yes are you being serious I really don't I don't want to do this I don't want to argue I just I just want to make sure that I understand I just told you that I don't want to talk about my conversations with my attorney wage are you a definitely claiming that that's because he told you that if you told me that would be violence anything or argue with you anymore did your attorney tell you that you weren't allowed to tell me what he said or that would be violating attorney-client privilege I'm not going to characterize my conversation with my attorney with you I'm not going to argue with you may find the city it completely pointless conversation when I'm telling you if you decide to divorce me you can have whatever you want in order for me to trust that strong and not just fate to try to get me to do something that you can then turn around and point a finger and say see what she does when I tell her she can have every suggestion or not we have no control over them well I could trust you more if you were telling me honestly did your attorney tell you that you're not allowed. My I have to cuz that is violating an attorney I don't think that that's appropriate do you think it's violating attorney-client privilege I don't know Aaron I'm not a lawyer but you definitely were told that by him I told you I'm not going to answer that
speaker 1: you
speaker 2: want to create this entire like web of catching my attorney doing something when I'm telling you you can have whatever you want to figure out why you're hiding stuff for me. Why why you help you with that why you want to keep it in the Ace in the Hole of being able to use this attorney like what side are you gearing a store while you try to tell me that I don't need to worry about you fighting me anymore like I don't I don't want something based on your Iraq has passed in court that you're going to get my attorney tossed out and we have to debate about it because something that doesn't even matter is what are we fighting in court I understand I don't understand what you're trying to use this to get my attorneys hopped out or something I don't know I have no idea what what they gave us going to replace it or what are we litigating I understand what we're mitigating and I don't I don't understand what this is all about so you can have whatever on it if we're not entering into but I'm saying like having issues for four
speaker 1: you're
speaker 2: scared that he's going to stop representing you I'm not scared I don't care that's what I'm not understanding well I'm not understanding if when you when you all of a sudden went to that I can't talk about things with you understand that I don't want to argue with you you understand the this is not healthy or shit cuz I don't want you to ask me questions it's it's distressing to me and I've everything you asked me is designed to argue with me I don't want to argue with you so I'm not designing to argue with you you are I'm needing to know about my attorney in the context of whatever you don't need to whether whether you are honest and trustworthy obviously I can't help you brought it you could if you were being honest and trustworthy consistently I can't help you with changing and blame-shifting you can you can you're the one who decided to bring up the thing about not being able to talk about your conversations with your attorney because we were talking about the paperwork that you had him file and you need to own choosing to talk about my conversations with my attorney this whole thing is this convoluted distraction from the actual conversation took it in creating some legal battle with you or something that you would you can have whatever you want it's not going to do that emotions are standing right now and they're public record forever yeah and this whole convoluted thing about your attorney I I didn't even bring up your attorney today you brought him up as some kind of scapegoat for your sin a filing false statement wage filed any false statements yes you have even though it if everybody everybody who knows me knows it's false is that kind of business office but there's so much falseness in the court documents that are public record right now it's an extremely long as there's a lot of faults if you think that I put my wants before the children's best interests ever and you think that that send the children's best interests to them to have no time with me every other weekend so yeah you know you want to be in the office right so you could have tells everyone in the world it's it's not reasonable to think that my wife would never put her once before the children's best interests you need to strike that right now. I might be comfortable with you saying that the Y feels that said the children's best interests for her to have primary custody but you're not going to say that my life has ever put her once before anybody else wants because I'm pretty sure that my wife hasn't even had any once since I married her well the strike that Jesse strike it now or punching you in the face like that's what I husband does okay my level of interest in your divorce last seating is 0 that's Bishop Dustin it's a public record that is for riffic that is horrific like like sickeningly horrific for them to say that right now I think it's terrific that you think I should see my children when you say that I think that to your children so much more time with your children you ever had when you were in charge of it so much more than you ever had when I was every single night I had a real relationship but then that is not true at a time I gave them when we both agreed that it was best for our family for you go to go spend time with Carson that's what we
speaker 1: agreed
speaker 2: we agreed that you needed to spend more time with kids so you should go to the springs with Carson so what what cancel your thing why we both know how you were choosing to spend your time okay it was it was pretty bad that's it was pretty bad I renovated a house for your parents took me away from my family I regret doing it about it repeatedly that's not what happened yes no you were building in you were still doing it you were still doing it still renovating a house for your parents I'm not I'm not true yes it is. I know you were going to spend time with Julie's family to the what Julie's family I don't understand you were not home for bedtime every day after you started working for American classic and you know it and I know it I was home for bedtime quite often I don't know how many nights I missed but this idea that you taking my children except for the other week before time with them is false you more time with them you know you know that when you have them every weekend that was more quality time with them than you had ever had and you know that and poke bar like maybe Cape Cod or something you know one off but you know that and they you know that they noticed that they recognize that I have no idea I cannot even fathom I don't either I guess the distraction I guess this is a distraction from the false statement that option off then why did you do it why wouldn't you just say yes I filed false statements that we could love one another but you know it it's not an agree or disagree it's an absolute fact I can't help you you can because you know if you don't like your if I created would say you're too smart you know like your choice for the children to see me every other weekend and that you didn't provide any need for me to see them fifty-fifty which is normal and that the courts viewed as being manipulative that's not true that's there's no point arguing about this the first day that I went to Rihanna and Kevin's house you literally just got out of it gone to Captain Brianna's house picked them up and never brought them back to me again I took no actions to prevent them from picking them up and I took no action to require you to press the charges being correct that's not true I took actually no action I have I have messages to you saying 24/7 no restrictions day or night any day that's what you were told when you asked me if I would babysit for you before and after school I said that doesn't really work and I suggested what I'm pretty sure would end up being the kids eventual schedule chosen by a judge because I know what would come out in court and I know I know what rulings that end up in 50/50 have in common and they don't offer much in common with our scenario so I only take what I paid when we're not going to agree about this this isn't something that we should be arguing about you don't need to argue with me you ought to listen Destin there was never a time that I told you that you couldn't have the kids 50% there was never a time that I told you that you couldn't have the kids one hundred percent it wasn't my responsibility to line up before care for you it wasn't my responsibility to line up after care for you and when you asked me if I was going to do that and I suggested instead following the schedule that I was and still am able to work nearly confident is what the judge will end up choosing I told you that we should do that for now because it's in the children's section whatever you pick told you you could pick everything I know but I'm just saying historically you want to go back home this false story completely fall completely not based in any message that I've ever sent you or anything that I've ever spoken to you this completely one hundred percent false one hundred percent false with no truth to it whatsoever story that I wasn't letting you a 50% time with kids just because when you suggested that I'd be here before and after care I said that didn't work for me and I instead suggested what matches my children's seven year history and matches what I probably be my children next seven years of future based on what I feel the courts are extremely likely to rule and that gives my children stability in this extremely stressful enter. And it has resulted in my kids having the minimal possible amount of psychological damage from the hell that you've been putting your family through I didn't say that that was necessary I didn't say that I was going to stop you from getting 50% but I didn't say that I was going to call the police if you pick them up and kept him overnight on a Monday night I didn't go to the school and try to get them to not let you pick us up I didn't go through the courts and the date I have no idea maybe it's because you I don't know maybe it's because they're maybe cuz you don't have court papers maybe normally somebody would go ahead and actually settle things with the final judgment and then be able to show which weeks they have this scheduling appointments with me and rolling my kids and things without notifying me and not calling me back when I asked her conferences so honestly that is across the board and it is like your responsibility to when you're married love and nurture a relationship with your life that is such that it is safe for her to talk to you because every woman who has a husband who loves honors and nurtures their relationship such that he is a safe person to talk to them more information about what's going on with the kids from his wife than he ever even wanted because that's what women do and save situations they talk and talk and talk so you're in this is very very very not normal category of men who are not actually like pursuing Thursday getting a final judgment so that they have weekends or they have every other week or whatever so the way you should be getting your information is through your wife and that's not really their fault but you're not getting that and this feeling that you're having of being upset with them or not like reorganizing everything else for you to somehow have this direct access line is part of a mentality that is unique to you where you feel like an exaggerated sense of entitlement relative to reality you're thinking that they need to bend over backwards and do double the work and communicating to Lucy's parents that they do for anybody else because your birth father and you're entitled to it when reality is more that that something you earn by being non-abusive through your child's mother dead and that's what everybody else does to get information about their children and you want to subvert it and say no I'm going to abuse my wife and demand access to this information it's hard it's hard for me so you to put out a public record that is so false and so derogatory towards me and makes you look so good because if you took everything in your document that says wife and you changed it to husband and then you took everything in your document that says husband and you changed it to Weis you would then have a truthful documents and even with that being the case I never filed such statements about you I could have easily said that I have always looked to the children's entry physical emotional need and I could have easily said in there that you've really negligent and I didn't do that like I've spent my whole life trying to honor your reputation Everglade myself down like many many multiple times to allow myself to look bad so that you could look good but every chance you get you'll reverse it and I don't I just don't see how I can live that way and you want to say that you don't care about my divorce and your excuses because you're going to give me a phone not going to find anything else if you give me something to find but I'll sign it you can file that you understand I am standing like it's if it's already there and you're wanting to pretend that it doesn't matter that it's there well I don't agree with your statements about it so I'm not I don't agree with the document it's completely fine so that you don't I just that's what I'm saying is something that we need to argue about yeah you think that I have once in this world other than my children's best interests you and I disagree about what's in the best interest of the children still in the best interests to the children to see their father and I actually wrote in the document which was that I took my two years before I put my wants before their best interest so in order for my want to be prioritised above their best interests I have to have a want know you have to have a mischaracterization of what's in the children's best interest that's completely different you said that I put my want above their best above what's actually in the best interest of the children you want to have them all the time so I don't I don't that's not what I want at all this is my preferred what I want this even makes sense that I would want that that's what your court filing back for not because I want it because of the garbage that's been handed to be by you it doesn't mean I won't say you don't want it you wanted enough profile for that. I don't know if I could file for it I have filed you stop being an abuser that's what I filed for that's what I want I put myself in the best interests and I have no control over it gosh I do anything did you want me to believe that about myself that I have poor judgements about what's best for my children
speaker 1: you
speaker 2: know that like you're just learning about what's best for our children just absurd well I never said that I don't think you have a good judgment about what's best for our children involved you were abusing look like Lance it wasn't my fault it wasn't my fault that you were spending money the way you were spending money it wasn't my fault that you were pursuing Julie the way you were pursuing Julie it wasn't my fault that you were hurt emotionally the way you earn the emotion it wasn't my fault that you were doing all these projects instead of spending time playing with your kids none of those things were my fault those are the factors that are at Play When a judge decides what the address I know but those are the songs that a judge takes off to account and those are the factors that I was taking into account because I have excellent judgment and just because the outcome doesn't match the majority of families in Nassau County who don't have our history is not my birthday I'm taking action from the Google to the account the same way a judge would take our actual service did that you account and you're well aware that my judgment is excellent well and you're well aware that I'm going to get a chance to find out why all the time because I'm telling you you can pick everything that happened to disagree with the judge if I wasn't like you take everything to see devices me whatever you want exactly sure you understand how that makes you hero do you understand how to make do the market you understand why nobody nobody cares what I think including you is dead I really absurd to say that I like everybody American Classic Homes everybody in the whole to feel clammed most people don't really have anything to do with us wage and everybody read our Resort court documents I I took my children away from their wonderful father because I have terrible judgment about what children's best interest or if you read it you think I should work something that she puts above the children's best interest and if you're going to work play that by saying that my children specialist so I put I put the children's best interests above the children's actual best interest I don't think is what you were wanting people who or your employer was wanting people who read it to presume you get to be a victim forever and whatever you want to file just file it and I will sign it but if it's false I don't know I don't what do you mean false I am if I asked you to find whatever you ask for it is what reverse what you already said well whatever it doesn't make a difference to me and saying you can have whatever you want so you're saying that your character is such that you are not above filing statements that you believe to be false no I'm not saying that whatever you want is not false it's what we're going to do but if I ask you to file a statement that your wife has never and would never put her wants before the children's best interests and that was going to be public record you'd sign that sure if that you believe it to be false what is
speaker 1: this your
speaker 2: wife has never and would never put her once above the children's best interest and sure yes I'm not sure because you believe that it was false when you said that your wife did that no because your character is such that you're willing to file false statements no which is it neither which is it neither was it a true statement when you filed it before yes then would you be willing to sign a paper saying that it was a false statement when you said your wife quit her once above the children's best interests but you would say that your wife has never in would never do such a thing
speaker 1: I
speaker 2: don't know I guess I do you understand that the first rule of logic is in it can't this is ridiculous I understand that like the first rule of logic is if a is true then not a is false okay I think it's debatable I think I think I think it's not a concrete truth within the best interests of our children and I think that we have a disagreement about it and I think that regardless of that disagreement I'm afraid of you because I love you that's what I think whatever I want
speaker 1: you
speaker 2: said you'll do anything I want yeah only send that over a month so I want you to tell me that Jesse tell you that telling me about your conversations with him with attorney-client privilege yes do you feel like Jesse cares about your children more than he cares about your interests hey I honestly I don't know about that what would be your hunch I don't have a hunch all right you want to go ahead and schedule your counseling appointment I certainly VyStar okay and you want to find out when your mom's arriving yeah but she's probably going to make that a function of when I see the children what do you think that's for the kids oh gosh I'm quite honestly I'm not in not in a mental state to be doing any of this but these conversations they're traumatizing to me my mother is traumatizing to me but you want your stuff back to be in a mental institution like legitimately what I mean I need my stuff back if I'm going back to work got a bunch of my tools okay but she left a bunch of stuff here that I needed to take back and your truck yeah like what glassware Linens I don't know exactly she left stuff for a new house that you were truck but she took stuff that you need for work yes well she was coming down here to set up an appointment for me okay why don't you change your mind why what why didn't she get an apartment cuz I told her I need to go to Honey Lake that was the final going to do that then why did she leave you in a hotel oh I see what you got to get an apartment and I told her that I couldn't be on my own anyway I'm not suicidal and thinking that she was going to like move you into an apartment and get you all set and she couldn't right right okay so why did she take your cameras cuz I don't have a house then why didn't you just leave them in your camera cabinet I was feeling upset that things are disappearing out of my office I had no way to verify where they were going or what happened to them and you ended Jessie tell you to send them to Maryland no you just started that on your own no I just checking in to a mental Clinic sorry huh I'm sorry it's just I know you don't like talking about is just confusing to me like it felt rational to you to think my wife is selling my valuable items to stash the cash away for herself it's pretty common I know but I'm not very common I don't know I don't I still don't know where my hard drives are and that's that's where it's a lot more to me doesn't camera equipment right here and that's that's what I mean the camera thing didn't make sense but at the time they disappear when we had an agreement for them to stay where they were didn't make sense a destiny with dictating that they needed to stay where they were young and you were coming into my house displacing me from my house making myself feel more comfortable in my house every time the electricity went off I only came to the house and you asked me to and they were there it's very agreement that they would stay there so I could work remotely we didn't we didn't have it when I asked you to do the taxes you said you needed access to your stuff I moved out and I told you to stay at our house until taxes were finished and if it had been weeks or months I would have stayed out of our house until taxes were finished I didn't hear the beginning of what you said and that's not how I recall our conversation I think we I think I did a night and in the office asks you to leave wage so that I can work I can just eat that I can just remote in for most of it okay so you understand that that is you setting up a complex system that I am enslaved to follow there wasn't another option. I was the option if I gave the opportunity to drive until taxes were finished and you chose to leave and everytime electricity came turned off you chose to have to come and fix them cuz nobody else is smart enough I gave you instructions on how to fix it you asked me to come when I can doing it out of service to you but it's not a service I want I don't want that all set up here that's you you want to do whatever I say and I'm saying that's what I want I don't want equipment setup that requires you to be the one to take care of it I told you that you can have whatever you want after that agreement fell apart but okay but we had a literally a standing Family Law Court order in place that requires us not to sell or dispose of any belongings great I haven't but you your brain was thinking that that was something that I was going to do that you did sell some stuff and I kept pictures of proof or something no her garage provided us but it's in her garage because I was turning it in with my next what do you call it not the boss not the original mandatory disclosures but your request for additional documentation but Jesse sent me I already had them all compiled
speaker 1: okay
speaker 2: photographs of anything that you're storing off-site and the name of the person who's doing it for you and that dishwasher something that multiple people told me that DCF might have a problem with fitting off kitchen and Mom said she tried to it's not but I don't need to be living in a way that there's no reason for me to have them a dishwasher my kitchen that's not installed there's no reason for it so I'm not doing something dirty or bad by keeping my children safe from equipment in my kitchen I know that you're used to us living in a way where spring Stout saying that it would be good for us but then don't actually install it for months or years you ask me. I guess I I know but I think I don't want to argue with you not have to really ridiculous I know if there's no reason for you to be acting like I said it wrong or just talk Dirty by putting in my parents garage taking a photograph of it and placing it in my files to turn into Jesse okay keeping my children safe I'm taking good care of your property I'm documenting it all and I'm going through the right system underneath the Florida family law standing court order which is completely predictable and in line with everything that you know about my character there is not a more honorable way to handle which is there's nothing that we need to argue about. That's I was just trying to understand your birth date because I don't get how you get there with the cameras I feel like there is a really really strong disconnect from reality and it's hard for me to gauge from day-to-day life how bad it is with you so you feel it's not good for you to be around your mom I don't know you feel it's good for you to be around your mom I don't know okay you feel it's good for our children to be around your mom I don't know any I don't know how you going to behave that made me remember that I've literally not responded to my sister asking us about the children being in our wedding as a repair and whatever else it is flower girls okay I must have missed this part in the message but my mom saying that it's in Mexico you told me if I needed okay and that you're invited what do you want me to tell her I presume next January it it doesn't say that your mom will pay for it you're just assuming that right she told me she'll cover the costume me and the kids and that you're welcome to go and I would presume that she'll pay for you to go however that could change if you divorce me and take everything but I'm just saying like all this. With your mom's money is really dangerous well if you divorce me and take everything and you want to go to supervise the children that would not be an unreasonable expense for you to elect to have them I know I just need to tell Madison something it's not secret play as me to just ignore her you got it you should have said when do you need to know by and obviously that sounds amazing it's going to be beautiful really found that amazing to me but oh and I don't know if you know but she's pregnant again yeah I know so she's obviously going to have a baby doesn't sound amazing to me it sounds like an application but regardless so you want to not do it no do you want to do it still my sister well I know but you understand that you're sacrificing your own children on that altar of entanglement with your family obligations yeah and you have to add whether that's in your children's absolute best interest or if you're just using your children as currency to fulfill your obligations well I don't know how to help with that like I said we're going to do whatever you want so I just need to know what the color you understand that that scapegoating right there right I don't but I know that you think so I'm putting me as a buffer in between you and your family and you're hiding behind Aaron chose whatever it is I won't represent it that way to them you're feeling like you actually can't make this decision I legitimately can I'm telling you that you get to pick what happens with the custody of your children and then telling you that whatever you choose is what we're going to do all right so you're going to buy Star you're going to McDonald's you're going to schedule your what counselor yep you feel like that's a good plan that they have for you for canceling I mean all it is is a place I have no idea if it's any good or not she get you report from dr. crab before you schedule your counselor I can try good afternoon to come and do on that okay I mean I've called them several times I'm just thinking in terms of your I guess I guess I'm wrong I guess really you should go ahead and get started with your new counselor cuz it's lined up for you and then if there's something in your report that makes you think you should switch you won't have wasted but one session right
speaker 1: yep
speaker 2: that's probably I'm sorry I shouldn't have said that so go to VyStar go to McDonald's schedule your counselor and that's it for today I know you got to figure out you need me to figure out what to do with your mom this weekend right yes and then you know what to tell Madison I think Madison is just like congratulations happy for you when do you need to know by about the kids cuz she's you understand she's planning way out of the advanced
speaker 1: right yeah
speaker 2: if she just if she if she asked you about the kids in for the first time in October like they would still be plenty of time on both ends to plan for them and so she's you're asking you in February she might say I just need to know by June you know so the the only problem on your end right now is the fact that you have a slight congratulation thank you for thinking of them so exciting so it makes sense I mean in my opinion I don't think it's going to make sense to her that we need to plan ahead for something like that no we can say what well I mean that's okay all that all that really matters here is that she knows that you care that she's getting married and you care that she's having a baby and you think it's great that she wants to include your children in her wedding like those are all really really huge really important things okay whether we respond in February or respond in March to something that's happening next January is not really that important compared to the important stuff you need to communicate to her then maybe you want to read some John Piper yep all right bye-bye