speaker 1: speaker 2: this call may be recorded speaker 1: I just like I mean did you have like another plan for the credit card debt speaker 2: probably a different job speaker 1: sometime so you're just thinking that you would pay it off over time did you ask your employer to sign off on your contract early no what speaker 2: I haven't been there long speaker 1: enough did you ask does that mean yes or does that mean now speaker 2: okay speaker 1: and I just need a speaker 2: what I understand that I can't realistically agree to raise our children together if you divorce me when I'm suicidal speaker 1: I don't really understand no and I don't get it I don't get why what speaker 2: what don't you speaker 1: understand like I would think that if you're committed to improving mental and emotional health for the sake of being a good father that that wouldn't change just because you're divorced I would think that being divorced would give you even more motivation to pursue your singular calling in life and you take that speaker 2: in the best they can just as I speaker 1: don't I know I'm just saying like I don't I don't see the circumstances being that different from if you're married and not need to pursue self-improvement for the sake of not ruining your children you know what I mean like in either case there's a major major major problem that's going to negatively impact your children forever and you have got to get a hold of it speaker 2: so no I don't again for as long as I can what I can do speaker 1: hey does hey hey Dustin hey I don't understand why you think that your prognosis would be any better if you were married and worse if you were divorced what what's the rationale there speaker 2: I don't know I don't know if it is I'm just saying speaker 1: cuz you feel like you need to be carrying out domestic abuse in order to be okay in life I I'm just saying I don't get like with with how destructive you are in marriage and how terrible your family life was dead why you would presume that speaker 2: I understand you I told you everything so speaker 1: because I mean a divorce is not about trying to is this about your parents how your mom was terrible in the divorce and screwed your dad over and tried to take everything she could from him and ruin his business and home use her children as a pawn like you think that's what divorce really is for normal people speaker 2: no speaker 1: cuz for us it's it's removing ourselves from really really unhealthy Behavior patterns I cannot fathom how you would not be better off in a situation where you're not mistreating neglecting or abusing your wife on a daily basis often in front of your children and instead actually spending actual quality time with them every other weekend which you historically not ever satisfied a whole weekend you know what I mean speaker 2: like I just I mean speaker 1: that's just seems so like I know I'm not saying that seems like so like beautiful happy family and rainbows compared to the hell that we were in no I I don't understand like this idea that you have that that's some terrible hopeless Abyss when all you've lost is the ability to abuse me l don't get it speaker 2: I don't I don't get that you can do whatever you want I don't what does that mean I said I would give you whatever you speaker 1: want why do you keep talking about that I mean I haven't I haven't been asking you to give me anything I don't get it you understand this thing that you've been doing where you make people think bad things about me and imagine that I'm taking your children away from you so that they'll feel sorry for you and think that you're a victim is on predicated on a actual real principle that children need an active father in their lives people know this and that's why you're able to manipulate them in that way because they're imagining that your wife is taking children away from their father which would be a bad thing so you're you're using that principle to victimize me and abused me but I don't see you actually acting on it in terms of making a priority of making sure that you become more and more and more active in your children's lives regardless of that situation Thursday are you there hello I'm still here okay well I'd like you to maybe stop doing this thing where you interrupt a real conversation and about real things and real concerns and deflecting to I said I'd give you everything as if I ask for everything and is it that somehow excuse is continuing to wage give me instability and give your children way less than what they deserve and a father can we take that off the table of ways you can deflect the conversation whenever it's convenient speaker 2: any more right now but I'll try and clarify and a text later on what I can't talk about this anymore right now but I'll try and clarify and a text later speaker 1: on okay just please don't make it all about I said I'd give you everything in the settlement because I haven't been asking I haven't been asking for that oh I didn't know that you had somewhere to go I needed needed the try to figure out how to get our 2018 tax returns I haven't filed them so I can't give all your computers back until I copy the files over but I can't can't access all the files because some of them are password protected speaker 2: I can help you with that can you go ahead and speaker 1: any passwords that you think speaker 2: our speaker 1: boxes why speaker 2: I do not have done what do you keep them I have to remember I don't know I got to go right speaker 1: now I'm not sure what you mean speaker 2: all right speaker 1: like you're not sure where you keep them in your trailer exactly or you're not sure what speaker 2: will you put them in yeah speaker 1: which one was it speaker 2: I don't know what the password is but I have to go now I'm not really sure what you mean by you don't know that I don't know what it is are you saying that somebody else that that if I will provide it to you at any point in the future speaker 1: I'm not I'm not actually speaker 2: understanding text back to you too speaker 1: okay but you're definitely the one who created those passwords speaker 2: I don't remember was there somebody else who had access to those who have had an opportunity I don't know who you are no I mean when I speaker 1: mean before I unplugged them like speaker 2: I don't know honey you gotta go there's already a password on it when it was already a password on it so I'm asking like during the time that you speaker 1: had it if you were giving someone else access in a way speaker 2: that I don't know I got to go all right bye see you later