speaker 1: 
speaker 2: hi buddy what you been doing
speaker 1: in fact the c a little
speaker 2: bit what did you say
speaker 1: that it was good that I showed you
speaker 2: on your that is good but it also might be really bad cuz you might be tricking me into thinking I can trust you not might be the most dangerous thing for our
speaker 1: kids yeah what I'm not trying to trick you
speaker 2: you told me that your mom didn't talk to your counselors on the
speaker 1: phone sorry
speaker 2: you shouldn't have told me that
speaker 1: all right
speaker 2: he told me that you were sure they didn't read the email she sent
speaker 1: them oh pretty sure about that but you're right I'm not a hundred percent
speaker 2: sure you shouldn't have told me that sorry you tried to convince me that you convince them that your mom was crazy and they shouldn't pay attention to anything she said
speaker 1: Dustin yeah
speaker 2: did you read the email that your mom sent to your
speaker 1: counselors yes it's been a while I read it
speaker 2: and what did you think about it
speaker 1: not what I think she's not
speaker 2: but what did you think about the what she
speaker 1: said that it was
speaker 2: that it was what
speaker 1: typical her yeah
speaker 2: which is honest and accurate which is dishonest and
speaker 1: inaccurate Define something out
speaker 2: Europe did you talk to the Nixon about that relative to the email yeah you told him that you thought it
speaker 1: was to tell you this but they were so dismissive like L did not register with any of
speaker 2: them you represent it to Nathan that you felt your mom's email was dishonest and inaccurate and not to be trusted yes because you sent Nathan an email that said this is actually mostly accurate
speaker 1: well I see I don't remember the email so I guess I I just
speaker 2: can't believe like this iPad no the original one was super long she sent it to Nathan and you wrote to Nathan to make sure that Nathan knew that it was mostly accurate
speaker 1: okay I remember that
speaker 2: now not okay it's not okay that you're lying to
speaker 1: me about lying to you
speaker 2: it is it is if you're telling me that you told Nathan that he shouldn't trust what your mom Road and that it was not accurate that paints one picture of what is happening with you psychologically when you're sitting at Honey Lake for a month and when you tell me or when I know the truth which is that you're lying about that right now Aunt everything that everything that your mom wrote in that letter wage even if your counselors didn't read it was what you and your heart really believed and is what you were saying out loud to your counselors and what you were saying out loud to your friends there and what you were having Affirmed and that matters to me it it it matters it's really really really important that you're honest with me about what's going on in your head because your behavior haven't been making sense for very long time now and you're you're putting a lot of things in emails to a lot of people that would explain that erratic behaviour because if you actually believe those things off if you actually believe those things then you should be pursuing terminating my parental rights because that woman that your mother described in her email is not fit to be a mother to your
speaker 1: children what I guess I got to go back and read that email
speaker 2: I don't think you should I don't think that that is a healthy thing for huge like please don't do that okay please don't do that ever again that's it's it's beyond
speaker 1: horrific understand that when you say it's beyond horrific I have no idea what you're talking
speaker 2: about will you've been talking to your mom pretty much every day for a few months now so I think you have a pretty good idea to
speaker 1: see my mom for a few months now.
speaker 2: Well you've been talking to her a lot for a few months now she claims that you told her you told her that you don't trust anyone and you don't think anyone has your best interest at heart accept her and Jeff and the people at your
speaker 1: workplace
speaker 2: home so she's my anger you're lying
speaker 1: I wonder wedge
speaker 2: exactly I just feel like you don't grasp it's I feel like you don't grasp the severity of what she just did
speaker 1: when you say what she just did what do you
speaker 2: mean spending all that money to get you into that clinic to convince everybody that your wife is manipulative and your wife lies and your wife has your self-esteem down and your wife has you questioning your own real life like you
speaker 1: do that and she's not trying
speaker 2: to it's in the I know it's actually in that email literally although I didn't I didn't like all those words were actually out there
speaker 1: that's
speaker 2: not my take on it
speaker 1: say it were mental health clinic you convinced everybody that whatever you just said you put me in a mental health clinic because I was suicidal
speaker 2: well it's pretty amazing how she capitalized on that it didn't I mean she did that whole thing that happened there. Whole thing yes that whole thing that she did calling me and saying that she urgently needed me to call her and would not tell me why then saying it's an emergency but would not text me why but I had to get on the phone with her can you think about that why somebody would do that if they were actually worried that their son was about to
speaker 1: die because he wanted you to call me I think she wouldn't tell me that where they
speaker 2: tell me that it was just
speaker 1: emerging said she wanted you to come on the phone
speaker 2: to call her I needed to call her immediately it was an emergency and she wouldn't say what so I was worried about you and I had Brianna call her because we wanted to make sure that you were safe and everybody was okay okay she wouldn't tell Brianna I just have to talk to Aaron I just have to talk to Aaron is is that the actions if somebody who's actually worth that their son is about to die
speaker 1: honey
speaker 2: she spent a whole long thing to Nathan about and how long thing to you about how your wife was not acting as a loving wife to you or a mother to your children or even a friend she doesn't have your best interests at heart she doesn't even care about your physical safety you can't have somebody in your life who's going to cause you to question your self-worth like this on that day she couldn't have cared less whether you lived or died do you understand that wage she was laying groundwork for being able to make those claims about me not being there for you when you were suicidal and convincing you that she's the only person who is there for
speaker 1: you nobody thinks that did you understand that's actually in the
speaker 2: email do you understand that's literally in the email your mom said
speaker 1: I guess
speaker 2: they and and you understand that you sent Nathan an email that said this is actually mostly accurate
speaker 1: well I'm not saying that it's accurate that you're dead worse than a
speaker 2: friend that I was not there for you when you were suicidal that I like do you understand that she she actually actively created that scenario intentionally wage like we were there for you we were ready to get in a car and drive to you anywhere you were and she's doing weird conniving like that's not normal I looked at Brianna and I was like if Dustin's in trouble which is this and brand of like no she wouldn't miss what somebody does when they think someone's in danger
speaker 1: well you guys were wrong about that
speaker 2: and your mom was wrong your mom would be your mom she has
speaker 1: your mom should have said is acting irrationally because he's a rational in general and because he was under extreme stress none of that has anything to do with her inappropriate letter
speaker 2: but you said was accurate
speaker 1: but it was mostly accurate and I not looking at it now they know if that was a good judgment or not there's nobody including her that thinks that you're not there for me or a bad mother or any of that
speaker 2: that's not true she put that in the email and you said that it was
speaker 1: accurate I do not think that I did not leave my counselor with that impression or anything even remotely like
speaker 2: that quote when Dustin called me and she said she wasn't sure he could hang on that day Aaron refused to take my call she showed no desire to be a wife a mother to his children a friend or anything whatsoever too often human kindness or desire to help save his life I knew my son was struggling to not danger himself in the only person I could turn to turn her back and involved her quote friends unquote that really complicated the situation that day and had me guessing that she was only trying to escalate the situation Aaron also refuses any dialogue with me which was not warranted most recently I tried to contact her regarding picking up kids to visit Dustin at Honey Lake via text message we were hopeful that she would do this for him she did not answer perhaps I overstepped and I won't make that mistake again is destined doesn't want me in the middle and I understand but I finally asked her if she is avoiding answering because she doesn't want documentation that she's refusing him his visitation she knew the kids would be well taken care of and safe I feel for her it is all about power and control even at the risk of the kids relationship with their father you told Nathan Nathan but mostly accurate and that's only like one small part of an extremely extremely extremely extremely long letter that says untrue things about me write that about you told me that it was mostly accurate and and I I just don't get the part where somebody says these untrue things about your wife and you don't hurt them I don't understand how you don't shut that down as a man or not I mean even not hurt them but how could you I don't I just don't know I don't know how you don't fight for your wife's on or when she's being slandered like that off and I don't understand when you see your mom lying about me and twisting things and making me look bad how you get on the phone and still with her mom all the details of our next conversation after that reservation like when I'm on the phone with you and you're at Honey Lake and you're calling her and saying Aaron Aaron wants to be Aaron wants to be added to my medical Aaron wants to be added to my medical record here she don't trust that I'm not giving the team here unbiased view of our situation off like like knowing that your mom's going to take that and say that I'm trying to control and manipulate like why do you keep giving her all these details the whole time you're there you're you're telling her what I'm saying about everything
speaker 1: I'm sorry
speaker 2: does she know that we were having a meeting with the Monday like that is creepy freaky to me for her to have accessed she knew that we were having a meeting on Monday evening like how is this I don't understand how this is still happening
speaker 1: what
speaker 2: that she's getting all this information but she is obviously going to twist to try to destroy our family I don't understand why why you would give her access to something that's so dangerous for your kids
speaker 1: I don't know
speaker 2: but is that a safe thing to do like do you really trust that she's going to take that information and use it in an honorable
speaker 1: way what is she going to do with
speaker 2: it she's telling people that I'm manipulating you she wrote a long message about how I'm manipulating you emotionally and how I'm putting you through all this turmoil in order to control you and give myself a leg up in a divorce settlement and you say that's mostly accurate and you just lie to me on the phone and told me that you told Nathan that her email was untrue I
speaker 1: told him that and then I read it and I taught at the time though it was mostly
speaker 2: true I know but tonight you told me that you told Nathan that it was
speaker 1: untrue I did and that's what I remembered
speaker 2: you remembered what
speaker 1: telling me that she sent an email that I told him completely disregard it yeah liar
speaker 2: so this is actually most
speaker 1: accurate hm I'm not looking at it but I don't know
speaker 2: but you you understand that this is a big deal you lying to me is a big deal and you lying to me about them aligned and the things related to your psychological care is a big deal I have a find you let me go along thinking that you told me that that email was untrue when in reality you told Nathan that it was actually mostly true that's a
speaker 1: big deal I agree with you that's a big deal if it wasn't a lie wasn't lying to you it
speaker 2: was a line Dustin it was it wasn't it was wrong it was if you say you can disregard that my mom's crazy before you read it and then you read it and you said that's actually mostly true LOL and then now you tell me that you told him it was untrue you're saying something that's a lie
speaker 1: I'm not telling you a lie
speaker 2: he did no I didn't you already did
speaker 1: no I
speaker 2: didn't Dustin you told me that you told me that it was untrue that's what I remember but that's not true you remembering something doesn't make it true obviously tell him before you read it you told him it was probably untrue but that's not telling him it's actually off that's just telling him my mom's kind of crazy but when you read it and you say that's actually accurate that's when you're actually telling him whether if the actual text is true or false so regardless of how sketchy your memory is on stuff like this for you to represent to me that you told him that was untrue when you actually told them it was mostly accurate is a lie this is where we struggle and this is where we always struggled with you saying things that are not true all right it's not I also don't know why when you had already started telling me that since birth or so sorry that you've been so bad to me and you wanted to work on her marriage and you were sorry all that why you're still talking to Julie on the phone for hours at a time
speaker 1: not talking to you late for hours or at
speaker 2: all you were in November which was after she wasn't even your senior super
speaker 1: anymore I mean we talked a few
speaker 2: times for over an hour at a time when she wasn't even your senior super anymore
speaker 1: I'm sorry
speaker 2: yeah but you're not being honest with me what
speaker 1: what would you like me to do differently or am I
speaker 2: would like you to be completely honest with
speaker 1: me well I can
speaker 2: not wash you're not you're not even trying you're trying to trick me into thinking you're trustworthy but you're not trying to actually be completely honest with me
speaker 1: I am trying to be honest you
speaker 2: know you're not do not I mean seriously what does it even make you not tell me about your actual inappropriate relationship with Julie
speaker 1: huh have
speaker 2: no you haven't you've lied all about it and mischaracterized it horrific Lee and you know that and I can't understand why I can't understand if you think I won't forgive you I can't understand if you think that I won't respect you I can't understand if you think that it'll hurt my feelings and make me feel bad about myself like I don't know you just do it and I can't figure out
speaker 1: why we're talking
speaker 2: about what what
speaker 1: I can't figure out what we're talking about
speaker 2: we're talking about your extremely inappropriate relationship with Julie how intimate Thoughts with her how close you were how real your connection was and how two sided it was that's what we're talking about and and you're pretending that you've told me
speaker 1: everything I have told you
speaker 2: everything do you have any told me an hour's worth of dialogue when in reality you've had hundreds of hours of worth of dialogue
speaker 1: not had a hundred salary for the
speaker 2: dialogue you haven't told me about all the Care that she showed you about us splitting up after the
speaker 1: fact what was that mean
speaker 2: what
speaker 1: what does that mean I don't know
speaker 2: what do you mean what does it mean I'm saying that you are you can't pretend that you're telling me everything about your inappropriate relationship with Julie off do you sense do you talking about do you have a do you do you remember that you were intimate with her do you remember that she really liked you do you remember all the ways that she showed you affection like
speaker 1: I'm probably not
speaker 2: and do you sense this is not working between you and I become
speaker 1: friends like the friend is my friends but cheap
speaker 2: went out of her way to spend time alone with you like I don't understand why you're feeling this need to just minimize it
speaker 1: I'm cover it up I don't yeah it is
speaker 2: yeah it is the important thing for you is that you get across that it was as a friend that's what's important to you know that doesn't sound like you're being concerned is being open and honest like
speaker 1: I am being open and honest funny
speaker 2: and you can't think of why you would have been talking to her for hours after she wasn't even your senior anymore can't even imagine
speaker 1: yeah we talked about what was going on
speaker 2: I'm sorry you talked about what
speaker 1: we talked about what was going
speaker 2: on about what about what with Rodger
speaker 1: on the bat with Gene my bad that
speaker 2: is that what you're referring to is that what you were on the phone for an hour
speaker 1: ago oh she seeing how I was doing cuz so it's not doing
speaker 2: well and you answered her phone call yeah how did you feel about her calling you
speaker 1: I don't
speaker 2: know did it make you feel like she cared about you yeah looking back and you see that that was
speaker 1: delusional it was all know I think she cared about
speaker 2: me there's no way that somebody who cares about you would do that to you
speaker 1: why did she called me
speaker 2: probably made her feel good Chad probably doesn't appreciate her but there's no way that she could care about you and do that to you on the phone for an
speaker 1: hour
speaker 2: that's fucking sick Dustin that's fucking sick and you know
speaker 1: it yeah huh and do
speaker 2: anything she called you on the phone she didn't do Dustin she knew what she knew that you had the hots for her she knew that your relationship with her had been inappropriate she knew that you were showing her love and affection she knew that you guys were flirting she knew that you were sexually attracted to her and when she found out that your marriage was ending she called and talked to you for over an hour do you have any idea how white trash that is do you have any idea how far how far how many billions of Miles beneath me that is to call somebody else's name when they're going through something like what you were going through okay I didn't want to tell you at the time because I don't want you to think that like I don't know I need to put down Julie or something but like do you understand that she's like gross and promiscuous and lacking in a basic character
speaker 1: yeah like
speaker 2: you know her pretty intimately you can see these things right yes like I don't I don't know I don't see how you could think on the same day that you're texting me and saying that you would do anything to fix our marriage and you're so sorry for that hurt me and you just want to make things better and you would do anything that you think it makes sense to spend that kind of time giving emotionally intimate information about your sacred marriage to a hore like do you see how irrational your behavior has been for months off
speaker 1: I
speaker 2: said do you see here how it was it was
speaker 1: yeah what yes
speaker 2: are you proud of it did it feel good at the time yeah do you know that sin is like that that's why Aaron kept telling you that you would deeply deceived it was telling you in August that you were deeply deceived by your own sin and he was telling you in October that you were deeply deceived by your own sin and he was telling you in November that you were deeply deceived in your own life and you were seeking out comfort and happiness and satisfaction and good feelings in Julie still and you know why'd you will be able to give
speaker 1: that to you what
speaker 2: I said you know Julie was able to give that to you because she didn't know the truth about everything you had done and because she was getting good feelings out of you perverted way to like when I asked you about it tonight you still lied to me
speaker 1: Hawaii
speaker 2: how about talking to her
speaker 1: thing that I can give you what yeah
speaker 2: cuz when I first asked you didn't say oh yeah we were divorcing Julie was showing me a lot of compassion and home phone with her for long periods of time just telling her about what we were going through and pouring out my heart to or but that wasn't your response your response was I was still talking to Julie like you were only maybe a few times
speaker 1: what what we're acting like I was still talking to her and I wasn't and you said when we talked to her in November and I said yes yeah Ally
speaker 2: oh cuz when I said we're still talking to her you thought I meant like right now
speaker 1: that's yes
speaker 2: I think that's fine like after we had separated I didn't mean right now basically sorry but it would help if in general in conversation your actual Drive was to tell everything
speaker 1: it is there and I don't I can't put my finger on it but you have
speaker 2: phone lack of trust in the person who lied to me a
speaker 1: ton yeah even
speaker 2: today it's called a lack of trust in a person who has lied to me a ton even today that would have called that's not a psychological problem that's a healthy thing that humans can choose to do to protect themselves from someone who is
speaker 1: predatory also recognize that that is different than it has
speaker 2: no money no no it is completely reasonable of me when I ask you
speaker 1: it's not reasonable to make a couple of things that aren't that somebody hasn't said I'm not actually hi
speaker 2: cuz I asked about you cuz cuz technically what I asked you was about you still talking to her after we separated right and you said no
speaker 1: like still talking to
speaker 2: her no no I didn't say I did not say
speaker 1: if you had asked I would have said yes we have
speaker 2: wage yeah and a few times and when I asked you I asked you about why you I don't know and I have to be like this is ridiculous for you to find me to say what was going on like I'm just saying that there is a high level of subverting admitting to your highly inappropriate relationship and the extent to which you were still carrying it out on the same day that you were trying to convince me that you would repented you were still engaging in inappropriate extramarital relations on the same day that you wanted me to believe that you would repent it that's significant information in a conversation about your continuation of communication with Julie that's not something to sweep under the rug with a generic faith of I don't really remember what we talked about being under the rug Erin yes it does not make sense to say I don't remember exactly what we talked about about what's going on like that is not a reasonable way to be open about this huge sin of cheating on your wife that you're needing to actually repent of and not just say you're repenting of while you're carrying it on it it's a big deal for you to tell me that you have the opportunity and not hope that you're not going to be forced to talk
speaker 1: about it you do hear what I did tell you
speaker 2: know you didn't I mean you mean I'm fifty questions you into it that's not the same thing I mean honestly like I just don't see how I just don't see how long you can get your head on straight when you're when you're spending as much time as you're spending filling your mind with your mom's wrong perceptions of me when you're spending as much
speaker 1: time with my mom's perceptions ever Aaron
speaker 2: that's her true you talked to her
speaker 1: today because I had to you
speaker 2: didn't but you chose to you understand she's calling you she's calling you and shaming you for going to church I don't know why you would want to imagine that that doesn't affect your head
speaker 1: and I think that my mom ever says affects my
speaker 2: head that's not true that's not true that is not what you told me yesterday no go back over yesterday and you specifically told me that it was messing with your head
speaker 1: see I had calling me and
speaker 2: crying I know that's what I'm saying
speaker 1: it doesn't affect my opinion of you
speaker 2: suck it affects your psychological Health it it affects your ability to look at things circumspectly what does that mean you know with the all-around
speaker 1: view know it doesn't look like
speaker 2: that and I don't see how you're going to be able to spend time with these people at work wage like you think that the people that work love you and support you but they only know about your delusion like I don't understand how that's a healthy place for you to be
speaker 1: I don't even understand either Aaron what they don't affect me either
speaker 2: but you told you told me specifically that you thought that they agreed with you and affirmed you and supported you and actually cared about you
speaker 1: ordered me and like with the people that are the people that are
speaker 2: charged for not supporting you you thought the people that are Church were not caring about you that people at our church were not loving you but that's because the people that are Church were calling you to repentance because I actually do about your sin and so you're going to all the people who don't know about your skin and and you're letting them a firm you in you're letting yourself feel cared for by them and then the people who actually care for you because they know the Chevy parts and the bad parts and we'll still make gigantic sacrifices for you or the people who you're imagining or against you and messing up your emotional health and not caring for you I just can't see how that selfie really did Aaron what
speaker 1: I don't want to argue with you suck also I don't know how long I can stay here
speaker 2: what
speaker 1: the David situation here is a little what situation over here with arguing with David it's not good for me
speaker 2: what
speaker 1: nevermind it just gives me anxiety
speaker 2: you treated me pretty badly today I need you to know I need you to know that if your friends from Honey Lake were sitting at the kitchen table with us all day long today just a day they would never Edward ever go back to thinking about you the way that they currently think
speaker 1: about you y my area cuz you
speaker 2: were not good to me
speaker 1: that's going to be better to you
speaker 2: I mean if you're going to say I'm doing whatever you tell me to do then when I asked you to cancel your Rush membership you should smile and be filled with joy that you have an opportunity to love your wife not huff at her and roll your eyes and demean her and minimize or concerns and then later complained that it's because she won't work her because she won't let you access the equity that is rightfully yours and your properties like really horrible abusive things they're not minor they're not part of a normal like normal marital conflict that's really really bad sorry I just don't I just don't think that I just don't think that you could bring yourself to do those things and say those things and have those Rollin II mannerisms
speaker 1: in
speaker 2: front of your friends from Honey Lake and keep up your false persona but that's just like a few examples so you were actually treating me like dirt all day long and that's because you've made a promise to me that you're willing to do whatever I ask Dustin I feel so betrayed that you say things like you repeat things to your mom that I've said to you in
speaker 1: marriage sorry
speaker 2: think I wasn't going into her
speaker 1: if I thought they feel betrayed what I went to have told her or anything that I thought you would feel betrayed off well
speaker 2: this is a recorded line and I am stating right now that I will feel betrayed if you ever tell your mother anything that I say or anything that I do she
speaker 1: lies that was a really terrible position
speaker 2: she is not a safe person it is not okay it is not okay it is not okay she is not safe someone who is willing to lie and bear false testimony about somebody in order to gain an advantage over them is not a safe person cuz she's going to take it and she's going to manipulate it and she's going to use it the way she wants to use it you you understand I'm saying she lied about her phone conversation with me right and it wasn't for a minor thing it was for a major thing she I mean she said right in that email that the children wouldn't be okay until I get help for myself cuz I tried to run you over with a car and I slapped you so hard I knocked the glass your glasses off your face like do you understand what she does with that information and do you like do you understand that that's a lie that you're lying and telling your mom but I tried to run you over with a car in front of the children
speaker 1: or
speaker 2: no do you actually believe that
speaker 1: I don't know honey be scared you made the
speaker 2: weird yeah but you understand I fled you and I've asked many many people okay if this happened to you and the person ran away from you and got in their car but then you started to approach their car and they honk their horn at you and when you stop moving basic car when they stopped
speaker 1: moving to figure out what we're going to do with our
speaker 2: team all the way up to the window you actually came all the way up to the window of the car and you were talking to me so you can't say you didn't watch it cuz you actually came all the way to the window and we're talking to me through the
speaker 1: window I honestly I don't really
speaker 2: remember I know I just think I've asked many many people what they would if they were approaching a car and when they approached the person would lay on the horn but when they stopped approaching the horn stopped blaring when they approached the car the person honked the horn and when they stopped but
speaker 1: unfortunately I'm going up and down the street
speaker 2: like no no no that's not true I was only honking the horn with a car was in the car was in park when I was honking and I'm thinking when you were approaching the car and everybody I've asked that to you has said that happened I would think that that person was trying to tell me not to
speaker 1: come well
speaker 2: and instead you came all the way up to the car knowing that I was fearful enough to flee the house from you and knowing that I was fearful enough to land the horn to try to stop you from coming you've approached the car and then I said I went a
speaker 1: little bit baffled that you're saying that you were fearful but we obviously need to hand the kids off so figure out what we are actually going to
speaker 2: do I know but you were standing there going I can sleep here tonight if I want to
speaker 1: what they're going I can sleep here tonight if I want to do
speaker 2: that's exactly what you said that's exactly what you said I can sleep here tonight if I want to you can't tell me to leave it in my exactly that's what you were saying to me so don't tell me you're baffled why I would be scared I was just at the previous week I was just at the laws house and we asked you to leave and did not leave with you were asked and then you moved to the McDonald's house and I didn't move back to our house and I specifically messaged you when you said our house is vacant I guess I'm going to move back into it if you're not going to I specifically messaged you and I said well I didn't move right back in honestly because you've just shown that you're not willing to leave a residence when you're asked to and I'm not particularly wanting to be in a place where I'm not going to have the legal right to ask you to leave, please give the children and IPS if we're in that house and the very first time we had to do a drop off here you stood in our living room and you said it's my house I can sleep here if I want to knowing that I was fearful of being in a house where I couldn't legally get me back up to get you to leave if I needed to I'm just saying that it's completely reasonable for someone to be scared because that is really creepy really erratic behavior that from someone who knows that somebody is scared to live in a house that they
speaker 1: can leave okay
speaker 2: it is it is extremely unreasonable for you to be thinking okay here's a woman who said she's scared to live in this house because if she calls the police she can't get them to ask me to leave that's the reason that she went was still living displaced in a house with seven other people
speaker 1: not this place in our house that's not dead
speaker 2: no I'm saying the reason I'm still living do I was still living at the law house for many days several days after you were living at the McDonald's and the house at Stanley Drive was vacant and you were specifically told me that I was leaving the house at Stanley Drive vacant because I was scared to be at a place that I couldn't get you to leave when asked because you had just demonstrated at the life that you don't necessarily leave when you're at so you knew that I was a woman who was scared to death at all you did you did did not leave when I asked you to yep when Brianna asked you to you turned her husband and said I was under the impression this was your house too
speaker 1: because we were having a conversation but you did not
speaker 2: buy it did not leave when I asked you to did not leave when I asked you to you did not leave when I asked you to I asked to leave and you stood there and you still were making an additional claims after I asked you leave making additional claims about how you have the rep I talked to me before we make major decisions about our
speaker 1: children's education of course they did
speaker 2: and then I said it was until I said that yeah but that was after you already said it fifty thousand times and you've been notified that it was distressing Simon and I said if you if it's if the next words out of your mouth or just to blame me for not talking to you about the kids before I enroll them in school then I'm going to have to ask you to leave home and the next words out of your mouth for that and then
speaker 1: I actually got the next week out of your mouth without having to have a plan
speaker 2: and you were you were actually unwelcome in that house and it was actually distressing the it was actually distressed and Kevin Brianna who you obviously didn't care what else they had going on in their life it was actually distressing children your present
speaker 1: dog what kind of invited me over there that's the whole rationale for me being there in the first place
speaker 2: that's no that's not true that was your first overnight with the kids and you were bringing them back from an overnight that was not that was not a whole scheduled
speaker 1: thing first overnight with the kids yes that's
speaker 2: the kids slept here at Stanley Drive with you the night before well I don't recall that but but that's what happened I have no idea but I'm saying that you told your mom that I tried to run you over with a car wash and I'm saying that it was obvious that I was scared of you and it was
speaker 1: obvious that was actually super obvious to me it wasn't super obvious to the children it but I've talked to
speaker 2: many people who have said that if somebody ran away from them and got in the car and when they tried to approach the car the person hunted them they would take that as a sign a sign that that person was scared just want them to approach the car that's reasonable and when I drove
speaker 1: it was you approaching me in the driveway and I was we're trying to figure out how much harder to take care of your kids
speaker 2: park nope the car
speaker 1: was in park when it's driving in
speaker 2: the car was in park the car was in park when I was honking Goose Creek when it's movie the car was in park when I was talking the Homer the signal to you that you should not approach the vehicle I went to the neighbor's driveway to get some juice since I came back three that I could hoping that I could Flash the headlights on to your truck to show you that you could follow those yep to compete in your truck because if you go to your truck then I would be safe to enter my own
speaker 1: house I don't recall you doing that my truck was not worried ended at our front door which is where I was with the
speaker 2: children I don't know what you're under you understand I'm telling you that I when I came back from the neighbor's driveway I I came in at an angle to face the headlights on your truck which was in a different driveway and I flashed them oh. You could go to the
speaker 1: truck Akinator go to my truck and see my children when their mothers like driving down the street honking her horn
speaker 2: I wasn't driving down the street honking
speaker 1: my erratic
speaker 2: Behavior no no no I was erratic it does not make sense to stand in the living room of a woman who you know what do you live in the house because you have demonstrated that you're not willing when asked and stand up straight and be haughty and say I have every right to be here I can sleep here if I want to that is
speaker 1: that is the home children
speaker 2: it is also irrational to go after a woman who is fleeing
speaker 1: from you
speaker 2: but everybody I've told the story two has said that that made sense and that you should have recognized that I was scared a few and you should not be pursuing
speaker 1: me not receiving you
speaker 2: and you definitely should not
speaker 1: nearly anybody that has been it made sense or not present to see what was going
speaker 2: on I can't believe you're doing this to
speaker 1: me I don't want to tell me about it doesn't make any sense to me
speaker 2: but this means that you're not a safe person to be around just like it's not safe to be around your mom because she's going to tell a different story about what happened wage it's not safe to be around
speaker 1: you huh telling a different story
speaker 2: customer telling people that I tried to run you over with my car I'm
speaker 1: not telling anybody anything about that you're
speaker 2: lying liar you're telling me that you didn't tell people that I tried to run you over with my car and that's a lie and it's a really bad light that nature is why but it's too late Dustin it's already out there you're already not a safe person and to have a conversation with you and for you to still think that you weren't safe to leave your children with their erratic mother who tried to run you okay with the car I can't I cannot ever be in the same room with you again I cannot have you over to my house tomorrow it is it is not safe it is not saying
speaker 1: that you feel that way I'm sorry I can't get rid of what to leave my children at night until you were able to calmly handle them
speaker 2: I was extremely calm but I needed you to go because I had scared I was scared to be in a house that you would not leave when asked and I asked you to leave and I would not leave that
speaker 1: here
speaker 2: there's a liar you're a liar I did ask you to leave your liar you're a liar you don't need to pick up a life and say that I didn't ask you to leave that's a lie lying is wrong that and you should do
speaker 1: it get out I asked you to taking our children shoes off I know but I had asked you to
speaker 2: leave and you do that I was capable of taking our children shoes off and you knew that I was scared to live in a
speaker 1: house to say goodbye to my
speaker 2: children but you had been with them for the
speaker 1: last they're not going to ask me to leave my own house there and that's not
speaker 2: rational that's why at the laws after you moved to the McDonald's because I was scared that you're the kind of creep that won't leave a house that a woman is asked you to leave when she's scared of you and it turns out ding ding ding I was right you are that girl you are approved it that that creepy that when a woman is scared of you and it's expressed in writing that she is scared you live in a house that the police will not ask you to leave when she's asked you to leave home and you won't listen you're going to still stand there and assert your right to be there months later you're going to continue to assert that right you're the erratic one that doesn't make sense that doesn't make sense to take that opportunity and say she's scared of me she's scared to live here knowing that I might not leave when I'm asked to leave and right now she's asking me to leave and I ask what I should do I'm going to prove that I have a right to take my kids shoes off that'll show her that'll show
speaker 1: her and
speaker 2: she doesn't own this
speaker 1: you said it done that with the car you said have made the children scared at the car
speaker 2: you should not have approached the car you should have approached the vehicle you did you did you did you did you did you did you did you did you did you did
speaker 1: you
speaker 2: did it doesn't even make sense that you could be in the house and I could try to run you over that makes no sense. That doesn't even make sense how can I run over somebody who's on the stairs you came all the way out me with the car how how is the car going to go with Under the Stairs Dustin it's a minivan not a monster truck you're not making sense you came down off of the stairs you came all the way to the window of my minivan off with down the street. What
speaker 1: all right I literally zero point in arguing about
speaker 2: this except that I have a right to understand that the man who is trying to trick me into trusting him again is actually willing to lie and say that I'm not safe to care for my own children that I'm not able to become that I'm erratic that I try to run him over with a car that I bought. How can I help you down the street making a scene in front of my children
speaker 1: that's like none of that's okay and it is extremely easy for you to know that you feel that way and arguing about it cuz you know trying
speaker 2: to know how messed up you are dead and how badly you are out to destroy me always have been and always will be it is it is my right to know that about you when you're asking me to put myself in the vulnerable position that you want me to be in with you it is my right to know
speaker 1: that all right well I only want good things for you I'm not going to have you whenever you want I need for a 30 about this I think that that's not
speaker 2: fair I think that I deserve to know the truth about you
speaker 1: I think that it's not fair that you're going to make me argue about it it really
speaker 2: did my mom just listen why well I know but the fact that you should not stay at the law residence when I've asked you to leave is something that you could learn from if you would just listen instead of arguing and leave the fact that you should leave the law residence when Brianna asks you to instead of turning your head and say Oh I thought it was your house too is something that you could learn if you would stop arguing about it the fact that when a woman says I'm scared to live in a house where your name is on the deed wage because you have shown that you're not willing to leave when asked and I wouldn't have the legal right to ask you to leave and when she asks you to leave wage boa become Hardy and say I have every right to be here I can sleep here if I want to you could learn something from that if you would stop arguing the fact that when a woman runs away from you and it's fleeing you because she's scared of you you should not pursue her if something that you could learn from if you would stop arguing the fact that when a woman has tried to get away from you and she haunts her winter approaching her vehicle is evidence that scared of you stop approaching is something that you could learn from if you would stop arguing the fact that it is really really really bad to go around telling people that your wife tried to run you over with a car when you created a crazy scenario with your own erratic behavior is something that you could learn English from if you would stop arguing I'm not here forcing to argue to argue I'm here trying to give you information that would help you stop being a shity husband if you would just listen
speaker 1: like me or what
speaker 2: what did you say
speaker 1: what do you want from me are we arguing
speaker 2: I think it would be really great if you would not argue
speaker 1: with me okay well then I'm not
speaker 2: no I mean you just did and then you tried to blame me for arguing with
speaker 1: you only did it yeah you did oh I'm not arguing with you
speaker 2: you just did you doing it now
speaker 1: 1. You just did I'm not you're doing it
speaker 2: now are you trying to be
speaker 1: funny no are
speaker 2: you are you trying to be
speaker 1: funny no
speaker 2: I don't understand
speaker 1: you're saying I'm arguing with you
speaker 2: I'm not but that's an argument yes wow you've been spending too much time with David
speaker 1: I
speaker 2: was unbelievable were you being serious or were you
speaker 1: joking yes Dustin Dustin Dustin that was really bad y
speaker 2: because you were arguing with me about whether you were arguing with
speaker 1: me I roll no that's
speaker 2: terrible it's terrible cuz you completely wrong and you're actually asking me what I want from you and I was actually saying that I don't want you to argue with me
speaker 1: I wasn't
speaker 2: Dustin stop
speaker 1: it's not funny stop I did stop
speaker 2: have you thought anymore about if you can trust someone
speaker 1: else it's totally irrational question to me y because I'm the person that control I bring
speaker 2: yeah but do you think that your brain is better than anybody else's on the planet do you think that there's like a hierarchy to it like you could rank everybody's brains from best to
speaker 1: worst I don't know what I'm the person that has to pull the lever who's of my hands and
speaker 2: feet right so you could pull the levers based on your own judgement or you could just choose that you're going to pull the levers based on someone else's judgement just choose
speaker 1: that we pretend what's up huh no cuz
speaker 2: your hands and feet would still be doing the
speaker 1: movements everything has to pass judgement before your hands and feet move no
speaker 2: your judgment could be that you're going to do what somebody else says even if it's against your better judgment and then do what the other person says cuz you've predetermined before even hearing what their judge you've predetermined before even hearing what their judgment is that you're just going to act on whatever they say and then you can do that. I think that's impossible you could do it that's called Trust it's called submission I've done it for years you've had a close up view what it looks like in practice so you would never do
speaker 1: that I don't know I mean as far as physically possible I feel like I am doing it
speaker 2: yeah all right so when you went to a counselor before you went to Honey Lake in Jacksonville your mom was a miscommunication with them about your therapy also you know I'm talking about
speaker 1: so
speaker 2: set it up yeah but then she knew who it was she was so she was able to communicate with that person directly the what was the message like she emailed and like having she had Caitlin email you an article she wanted you to read this
speaker 1: is Katelyn was supposed to send it to me. So I'd your mom do it that was suicidal I understand that was suicidal
speaker 2: oh you told your mom you need the article from Caitlin yeah and you weren't competent to reach out to
speaker 1: Caitlyn I wasn't going
speaker 2: to and how is the article going to help you not kill yourself I don't what
speaker 1: it wasn't about
speaker 2: that what was it about
speaker 1: something to do with some of the children of alcoholic parent
speaker 2: who had alcoholic parents
speaker 1: what in that cursed really
speaker 2: bad oh I said who had alcoholic parents
speaker 1: oh I send me
speaker 2: oh who was an alcoholic and when they were in
speaker 1: Minnesota I have a life basically
speaker 2: and that affected you
speaker 1: probably can't really remember the article very well Chris Leavitt meeting with her though what only had one meeting with her
speaker 2: though yeah just don't understand why you got involved in getting her to email you
speaker 1: something supposed to send it and then never got
speaker 2: it yeah but why are you on the phone with your mom talking about the fact that you needed an article about then how did your mom know that you needed an article about there she was where she was there with you in person and y'all are talking about the fact that you were affected by having an alcoholic dad
speaker 1: what oh I just asked her to the article but why and it is
speaker 2: so like did your dad and dad like neglect feeding you meals I don't know that when I was little so did your dad and like hurt you
speaker 1: physically what no I mean they jumped at me the what drove drunk with me
speaker 2: did your dad and give you alcohol to
speaker 1: drink I think when I was a teenager they might have given me one glass of wine and
speaker 2: Thanksgiving so did your dad and dad like molest you
speaker 1: that they like
speaker 2: rage at you and yell at you
speaker 1: what not often
speaker 2: sorry I guess what I was getting at is that if Mom's going to pay for your your mom's going to pay for your new counselor that means she's going to know who your new counselor is and if your mom's going to pay for our marital counseling that's mean she's dead now who are marital counselor is
speaker 1: and if she knows
speaker 2: her I know but that means that she can send unwanted messages to them and unsolicited messages to them not necessarily to be like a part of your care but down the line when all of a sudden three years from now she wants to home say she's worried about you because whatever like she'll know who that person
speaker 1: is dead it's not going to talk to her though.
speaker 2: I know but is that you feel like it's safe for her to have that
speaker 1: capability you know unless they don't trust that person but
speaker 2: that's interesting because I trust my mom completely and the fact that your mother has my mom's contact information is terrifying to me
speaker 1: fine
speaker 2: because she could send my mom and message any
speaker 1: day yeah but different it can do a lot of
speaker 2: damage she's like she's proven that she can do a lot of damage I think that you're not appreciating I think that you're not appreciating how much damage she did to your care at Honey
speaker 1: Lake I mean they didn't pay any attention to her
speaker 2: they might think
speaker 1: that no not think they did not read her
speaker 2: email you don't know that you already apologize for telling me that in this
speaker 1: conversation okay you're right I don't I just very strongly believe that
speaker 2: Dustin do you have any concept of how bad it is to tell people that your wife tried to run you over with a
speaker 1: car yeah
speaker 2: like does that register on a scale of really evil things a husband can do hi de hi in your mind
speaker 1: I will never tell anybody that ever again okay
speaker 2: I know I'm just saying I don't know if you feel the full weight of your sin in a way that allows you to actually repent versus figure out what you need to do in order to get your wife back based on what she's telling you you suck to do you know what I mean
speaker 1: I don't know what you mean
speaker 2: do you feel like you've
speaker 1: repented huh yes when did that happen December
speaker 2: pulling you wrote me on our anniversary you were still telling me that you didn't that you genuinely thought your relationship with Julie was innocent the whole time you were arguing with us about it off
speaker 1: you
speaker 2: feel like you had already repented when you wrote me that anniversary
speaker 1: letter and hurry repented tentative
speaker 2: ass you say you repented of each scene being at a different time there was never a blanket repentance of wanting to turn from sinning against your wife
speaker 1: well yeah but I don't have the letter in front of what I was trying to convey in the letter of the time of my relationship that is accurate I'm trying to tell you that it was
speaker 2: a joke know but when you were doing it with Julie do you knew it was wrong while you were doing it and was feeling ashamed while you were doing it and you were going home you are feeling ashamed while you were doing it with Julie and you were feeling ashamed like you needed to hide it from me when you were doing it with Julie and you were feeling like it was important for Life friends and family did not know what you were doing with Julie you knew it was wrong but you were choosing it because it felt really good you still want me to believe different than what actually happened what is that are you still wanting me to believe that are you still wanting me to believe that you didn't know it was wrong while you were doing it
speaker 1: . he going to answer
speaker 2: me I can't hear you are you on a different microphone I can't hear you can you hear me yes now I can hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you hello hey something was wrong with your microphone
speaker 1: I said I don't want you to believe that it was innocent know that you thought it was innocent I even thought I thought
speaker 2: so so right now you're willing to tell the truth yeah yeah and you understand that you are representing differently to me and in that letter on our
speaker 1: anniversary Dustin yes sir
speaker 2: it's good for you to recognize you realize you realize that that anniversary letter was dishonest and manipulative and that you have to interpret my like my actions at that time in light of the fact that you were sending me dishonest manipulative
speaker 1: letters yeah
speaker 2: cuz you know if the things that you were writing me were true about wanting to be a good husband and you were actually acting in accordance with that by being honest with me I would not have been divorcing you
speaker 1: yes ma'am do you understand
speaker 2: that yeah okay because you had deluded a lot of people into thinking that I was divorcing you for unbiblical reasons I'm sorry and the truth is that in January you were still actually unrepentant because you were using words to try to manipulate me into thinking that you had repented but you were still lying to me would it be helpful to you if Neil explained it to you would it be helpful to you if Neil explained it to you Justin
speaker 1: what are you what are you
speaker 2: doing
speaker 1: I am in bed
speaker 2: okay I said would it be helpful to you if Neil explained it to you what okay did you tell seeing that your mom offered to pay for your therapy and
speaker 1: everything no me too
speaker 2: oh yeah it's a good idea don't you think oh what did your mom say today
speaker 1: what well today I told you that she called and cried yeah I say that I kept telling her that
speaker 2: fine she tried to say what
speaker 1: she tried to say that I wasn't telling her something about our meetings not going well even though I haven't done anything like that so I had to keep telling her that we're fine
speaker 2: see I told you I told you I I said I don't know how but I know it's not safe to tell her that we have a meeting with CA why would you tell her that we are having a meeting with c a i can't believe that way after all this you would still tell her that we have a meeting with the a she's not a safe person to give information to because you don't know how she'll twist it around later and there you have it
speaker 1: off it went
speaker 2: fine yeah but she's crying to you telling you that she doesn't believe you and you're clearly hiding something from her and she's she's crying Dustin that's that's stressful for you to have to listen to right so you understand she's using the fact that she has information about you against you it's not a safe person to tell I have a meeting with c a just a person to tell anything you see in her letter to your counselors she said that I called you on the phone to say that you assaulted my mom and she said that she was standing right there and witnessed the whole thing and she knows that you didn't but then she asked you if you thought that you had assaulted her and you said you weren't sure how in the world does he allow someone to get him to question his own reality did you catch that when she did it what
speaker 1: I don't remember that
speaker 2: well yeah but you remember I'm sure you remember the conversation with her where you told her that we were saying that and I I would call it you know battery but that you would push my mom and your mom told you that you hadn't done you had done no such thing Dustin what's wrong with your
speaker 1: microphone nothing what are you doing bad
speaker 2: I know but I think ever since you lied down something's been wrong with your
speaker 1: mic ain't going
speaker 2: full-time I said do you remember your mom telling you that you have not pushed my mom yeah but you know I don't believe that for a moment because we're talking about my
speaker 1: mom sure what what hear
speaker 2: what what what you're tired oh okay yeah if my mom says that you pushed her there's just no way Dustin right wait what I mean just objectively
speaker 1: speaking I don't recall do about it I don't remember doing that
speaker 2: but do you believe yourself over my mother myself I mean it's over my mother my mom my mom's going to make that
speaker 1: up I don't know that she's making it up honey I think she's making something that it's not but
speaker 2: what hello so you're saying like you understand that you used your hand and you understand that you extending your forearm caused a part of her body to move away from your body
speaker 1: I don't know
speaker 2: and you're just not sure whether your definition of the word push would match my mom's definition of the word
speaker 1: push I think Mom and her pushing her
speaker 2: but but you know reality isn't dependent on your
speaker 1: memory that is true
speaker 2: and you know that your mom is there as a witness and is trying to tell you that I am capable of causing you to question your reality like I'm the one who's psychologically dangerous can you see why it feel like she's not a safe person to be around honestly I think you might have to be at the McDonald's longer than David
speaker 1: I can have me about what I'm going to be here that long what not going to be in that long what not going to be here
speaker 2: that long oh how long did they say
speaker 1: yeah it's not going to be that long
speaker 2: why do you say that
speaker 1: halogen a debate. What let's see if what I just see
speaker 2: y they didn't tell you the same as they told me that you're welcome there as long as I say that you're showing a willingness to do the things I ask you to do to restore our marriage
speaker 1: what I can think that's the case if I take longer to get out of here than the kid cool off why
speaker 2: oh you're saying you get out of there you say you get out of there by me taking you back to live in our house you're saying that they're not going to believe that you're working to restore our marriage if two years from now I still haven't take you back into our
speaker 1: house and I'm saying that they
speaker 2: told me that you're welcome at their house as long as I say that you're showing a willingness to do the things I'm asking you to
speaker 1: do yeah I'm just telling you that I don't think they're going to take believe that if I figured from now I think they will I think I think the agreement about that
speaker 2: well they've never said to me that me taking you back into our house is evidence that you're doing what I asked you to do with what I'm asking you to do is live at the McDonald's for two years then evidence if you doing what I asked you to do is stay in there right
speaker 1: okay if that's what you're thinking I think you better check in with them cuz I highly doubt that that is what they had in mind I hear me yeah I just don't think that
speaker 2: they I don't know I can do that it meant a lot to me that you think me for divorcing you today
speaker 1: it meant a lot to
speaker 2: me that you cared when I cried this
speaker 1: evening he doesn't
speaker 2: have you read through all the diagnostic criteria for personality disorders have you read through the diagnostic criteria for any of
speaker 1: them they tried to get me to read through
speaker 2: they tried to get you to read them and why did you say no
speaker 1: why am I testing
speaker 2: did you tell them that you weren't willing to read them
speaker 1: start so
speaker 2: they knew you weren't listening to their advice to
speaker 1: read I think it was what I don't know I don't know if it was fear advice I just trying to make a point that who told you to read it Nathan again that's it Megan told you to read
speaker 2: the diagnostic criteria and you didn't do
speaker 1: it yeah are you being serious right now something she was being sincere he was just making a plane said I didn't have an issue like that
speaker 2: are you sure she wasn't being sincere that you should
speaker 1: read it yeah no but you can make me revisit she what not like she made me read
speaker 2: it it's not like she made you take medication but you're supposed to be there to take her advice because you trusted
speaker 1: it did she advised you to
speaker 2: read the diagnostic criteria yeah but she was advising you to read it she was advising you to read it it was you don't think she you don't think that she wanted you to read it do you have it did you say read it did you say read it
speaker 1: so we can read it and I pulled out this thousand page book yeah and did you read it no do you want to be in the theater saying there's something like that wrong with
speaker 2: me so she pulled out the book but she didn't actually open it up to the page to let you read it
speaker 1: what correct
speaker 2: and you told her you agreed with
speaker 1: her oh I told her I was going to get testing done
speaker 2: oh that was prior to your testing was she trying to talk you out of going to your
speaker 1: evaluation no. That would be the only way to convince me that I didn't have an issue
speaker 2: so you were trying to convince her that you did have one
speaker 1: trying to find out if I did or
speaker 2: not but you weren't giving her your opinion either way
speaker 1: no I didn't have an opinion either way oh you're just asking
speaker 2: her yes and she said she knew because she had had a conversation with
speaker 1: you he knew because she had had several conversations with and my therapy and that of the member who's I think bear originally against me getting the testing and brought them over to my side so to speak was thank you for that it give me confidence up there wasn't anything a lot of good it did me I still don't
speaker 2: have it pretty funny either way when you think about it right
speaker 1: off I mean
speaker 2: like if you were the person who had in your hand evidence that somebody was not crazy or if you were the person that had in your hand evidence that somebody was crazy and like withholding it being like we have to
speaker 1: proofread it you know what I mean yeah it's pretty
speaker 2: wild to think about that information existing and being withheld from you either way yeah are you being serious though like you didn't even read it
speaker 1: I didn't read it that was funny to get testing done
speaker 2: is that why your attorney lined it up for you
speaker 1: yeah and it up for me he just I thought you said he had to make the appointment cuz you
speaker 2: make I thought you said that he had to make the appointment because that person didn't see the General Public
speaker 1: yeah and have to make the appointment I made the appointment but I don't think they would see me if I didn't have that connection I could just call up and and I could be wrong about that quite honestly but that's my impression of
speaker 2: it you could be wrong about
speaker 1: that I don't think so when I called them they only got interested in talking to me when I told them that I was referred by then really that's weird when I saw the girl that I signed Jacksonville that office since like affiliated with his office yeah when I went in her I was telling her that I was going to get that done so she was asking me about it until psych eval with dr. crop like 600 I'm sure you mean you know doctor so-and-so it's like no I understand he's a supposed to be a doctor dr. Cobb in Gainesville as she gets you know and so in Orange Park but no doctor in Gainesville and her jaw like about hit the floor and she said are you serious you know he's famous right she got all like butterflies in her stomach crazy she said she never met anybody that's gotten to see dr. Cobb
speaker 2: wow I'll
speaker 1: be I'll be so excited to see the report when it comes back wow
speaker 2: makes you wonder though why your attorney would have that
speaker 1: connection Silvis multi-millionaire clients usually and that's basically why good I'm I'm
speaker 2: jealous yeah
speaker 1: jealous it's pretty down-to-earth
speaker 2: and your mom paid for it or Jeff paid for
speaker 1: it that was oh
speaker 2: no I know I said you can't tell your mom anything about me but tell her you think I have a personality disorder and I need an
speaker 1: evaluation honestly I think if you wanted to go see and she would totally pay for
speaker 2: that that's what I'm saying do you want to have to think about
speaker 1: it
speaker 2: until we get your report back okay okay
speaker 1: although you probably can't see you now that he's done mine I bet why I don't know we can ask unless you just get like a half page
speaker 2: back it's like Dustin seems real nice
speaker 1: I'll be mad taking them what two weeks It's gotta have something in it yeah yeah did
speaker 2: he record your
speaker 1: conversation do you take
speaker 2: notes do you think that he was like just asking you like a set list of questions or do you think that he was using your answers to guide what he would ask you
speaker 1: next Thursday in and tell them and Narrative of everything and then further questions and I mean they gave me like 10 written tests that were all just
speaker 2: standardized yeah I just met the conversation part I didn't know if the conversation part was like he had a list of questions he was asking you off the list of questions or if it was more like he was trying to clarify things that you said
speaker 1: yes definitely that
speaker 2: did you have sex with
speaker 1: Megan just need that I have sex with
speaker 2: Megan that's what I asked you
speaker 1: oh I didn't you ask me that
speaker 2: cuz I didn't understand how she thinks she knows you better than I
speaker 1: do I don't think she thinks that and what would have to do that anyway
speaker 2: cuz I obviously know you better than she
speaker 1: does okay her husband worked for the Church of eleven22 I figure that
speaker 2: is oh wow
speaker 1: what does he do don't know let's see yeah
speaker 2: well today was pretty
speaker 1: awful what I'm sorry it's kind of new battery
speaker 2: you said you're never going to tell somebody I tried to run you over to the car again
speaker 1: you say that what yes
speaker 2: and you said you'll leave any time you're asked to leave yeah
speaker 1: you didn't do very good with that today though you know that right you said why I was trying to help you with something and it was just about to work I'm sorry I said why I can't get into this analogy
speaker 2: hi I don't know the connection expired while my laptop was closed oh nevermind maybe I'm back in with the login
speaker 1: and in constant with the capital c hey. you
speaker 2: remember you remember that day that you came over here and you were all happy with my mom and you were telling her don't touch my
speaker 1: stuff off
speaker 2: when you were with your own mom earlier that day was your own mom telling her that you didn't need to worry that you didn't need to worry about getting your stuff because your wife would never steal from
speaker 1: you I don't understand what you're asking me
speaker 2: like you were spending time with your own mother that day right yeah I just wonder did your mom have any idea that you were planning on coming to pick up your camera
speaker 1: equipment no it wasn't planning on it until I found out that addition to taking the network drive you would taking my desktop computer during the
speaker 2: disappear so your mom had no idea that you were going to take your camera so that was just like an emotionally-charged desperate
speaker 1: action sure and you were actually feeling scared that I was going
speaker 2: to steal your cameras or sell them and keep the money or
speaker 1: something well that's a concern and it's also just a concern that knowing where my belongings are I'm in my office and then the network
speaker 2: closet yeah I'm not talking about whether it's a concern I'm just talking about it leading you to think that you need to get all your cameras and be mean to my mom
speaker 1: in the question
speaker 2: hey I guess this might be kind of
speaker 1: obvious
speaker 2: you didn't actually read all the paperwork that you filed with the courts right
speaker 1: I guess you just read some of it I don't know I thought I read it all
speaker 2: did you read the request for additional
speaker 1: documents please what probably
speaker 2: so did you know that you had requested I submit pictures of items that were being stored
speaker 1: off-site I don't know I mean I don't
speaker 2: what does it mean when it says the system partition
speaker 1: failed means that one of the hard drives is broken and that my data is probably gone bomber
speaker 2: what do you want me to do about
speaker 1: it are you serious that's why I didn't want that mood I don't want you to do anything about it don't touch it say what what else
speaker 2: like under system help
speaker 1: yeah we're it says that a partition failed
speaker 2: file server LAN 109-216-8026 up time 12 hours six minutes twenty-six seconds and
speaker 1: counting all right well if only one disk failed then I can just replace that disk and it'll be okay what
speaker 2: do you want me to go where it says Lan one and change that on the
speaker 1: drop-down
speaker 2: anything I'm saying like maybe that's okay you understand it says Lan Wan under system partition failed right
speaker 1: yeah
speaker 2: but that's a drop down menu and I can pick land two or three or
speaker 1: four you don't want me to if it's only one hard drive then it is probably okay and place that hard drive but whatever is if we happen to the hard drive that sells very well which case I'm going to be hosed y because it's only redundant to lose one hard drive yeah more than two hard drives too hard drives or damage then I'm losing all of my data yeah just don't patch it or breathed on it or anything
speaker 2: you mean the box
speaker 1: right yeah but don't change anything don't do anything when you mean on the box right yes
speaker 2: well I hate to say it
speaker 1: I think you did it you did what
speaker 2: I don't know yet
speaker 1: I think I did something that you don't know yet yep does that mean I don't know yet why did you say I think you did it cuz that's what I think it did what
speaker 2: I said I don't know yet
speaker 1: are you considering that I did what why did you say that if you don't have anything that you think I did
speaker 2: I just have to figure it out
speaker 1: what's a PSD FD
speaker 2: know
speaker 1: PSD Delta
speaker 2: no papa Sierra Delta
speaker 1: SE is a picture
speaker 2: do you want to tell me what you
speaker 1: did so
speaker 2: do you want to tell me what you
speaker 1: did I did what I don't know you send me a wrecking my own files I would not do that oh why did you go straight to that you're accusing me of doing something you're looking at my hard drive files that's August setting to me so you admitting it and that Iraq sound files know I'm telling you that moving the hard drives physically damaged one of them now recording that and see the address off
speaker 2: say that again
speaker 1: being the network drive physically damaged one of the hard drives and that's okay okay let's move. You did you moved it to
speaker 2: thank you did if you hold for a minute
speaker 1: okay
speaker 2: are you there all right if I look up the what is it called diagnostic criteria for a personality disorder will you tell me if you have it
speaker 1: LinkedIn
speaker 2: you're not going to tell me if you think the criteria matches you though what
speaker 1: I don't know probably
speaker 2: oh you don't want to
speaker 1: okay I'm not really sure what I'm ready to go to Canada
speaker 2: you're mad at me
speaker 1: so
speaker 2: you don't want me to pick land to from the drop-down y
speaker 1: don't like changing anything on there and ruin my data I
speaker 2: don't think that you should ever speak to me that way again I think you should apologize for what you just did sorry how many miles do you
speaker 1: have how many drives do you have what I forget I don't know
speaker 2: how do I know if it's done I'm copying
speaker 1: ain't going to go in the hyper back up and see how much percent in the hyper backup yep the other
speaker 2: and how do I know if it completely deleted the
speaker 1: readiness well while it was leading and then I kind of the top that was scrolling oh okay okay gotcha
speaker 2: and can I look at all the data that has backed up from this analogy so
speaker 1: far probably went down
speaker 2: that's what's available in the file
speaker 1: station well if you go to a station the USB drive one of the things in there
speaker 2: under file server
speaker 1: driving the what must be something oh USB sharewood yep and I think a folder is file server call Silver one yeah about that what you and I think I'm going to go to bed what and then I think I'm going to go to bed what yeah and I think I'm going to go to
speaker 2: bed this is unusual I'm actually hearing the I think I'm going to go to bed part but I'm not hearing the
speaker 1: first part I have to pee and then I'm going to go to bed I think
speaker 2: oh did you say I have to
speaker 1: pee yeah
speaker 2: is that what you said every time yeah okay
speaker 1: I hope we can see each other
speaker 2: tomorrow well we'll definitely see each other in the evening
speaker 1: right yes all right bye do you want to get together during the day I don't know maybe all right bye I love you all right bye