speaker 1: 
speaker 2: hello
speaker 1: hey hey what's up
speaker 2: hold on I've really need to get those tax returns so that I can fill out my FAFSA so I really I really need a password for the
speaker 1: find the files are on my server Thursday it's all been deconstructed to where I have no access to it so
speaker 2: I know but I have the servers and I can give like I could bring it to you tomorrow I just need to be able to get the files for myself so that I'll have my own copy and
speaker 1: then I don't you told me you're not going to law school where are you going out of town
speaker 2: do you just utilized a diversionary tactic and that is manipulative and it's not something that I'm going to allow you to use to change the question on the table
speaker 1: well I'm not going to give you access to my file server and even if I do the taxes are not done right I was just trying to hear
speaker 2: I'm just trying to expedite all of them as much as possible because I don't think that it's right for you to not have access to your own servers but I also don't think that it's right for me to not have access to my own servers month so not here only I mean they are mine it's it's joint marital property so the easiest way to give us the easiest way for us to build have access is
speaker 1: to you're not going to tell me what your feeling on the FAFSA make a
speaker 2: copy yes I'm not going to do that I'm trying to understand that in the context of what you claim that you're doing honey Lake remind me again about your singular goal in
speaker 1: life yeah it's got nothing to do with you taking all my files that are
speaker 2: mine okay so now you'll have another goal in life that is more important to you and that goal would be best defined as ensuring that your wife doesn't have access to certain
speaker 1: files honey I give you access to all of our files that are
speaker 2: yours Dustin you can't have files that are not mine were married
speaker 1: well I don't want you to lay around on my favor not reasonable
speaker 2: Augustine with my
speaker 1: service none of this solve your problem and then none of explains why you're filling out the
speaker 2: FAFSA about the diversionary
speaker 1: tactic not the reason area for
speaker 2: me it is even though physical property and intellectual property is legally designated as belonging jointly to both marital partners the right to take an action such as fill out a FAFSA is actually interested to each marital partner like independently in other words being married does require you to share your proper to keep up being married does not obligate you to let another person control you or get permission before you take an action I know so you're I know I'm just saying you're trying to like drive this conversation to somehow be about me explaining why I'm filling out the FAFSA I still haven't explained that like like I'm need to be embarrassed of myself because I'm doing something illogical or I need to be embarrassed of myself because I haven't explained because I love
speaker 1: you need to be in charge of your phone it's not something
speaker 2: that it's not something that I like owe you an explanation to having a conversation about how I can get a copy of the file so that I can give you a
speaker 1: very one-sided relationship than I
speaker 2: know it's it's not it's a one-sided relationship when you're the one person who has right to pretend that you have individual property that's not part of the marital estate but the other person
speaker 1: doesn't have one I did when I don't so the one person in control of the server is you not
speaker 2: me no dust and it's not right for you to twist that around on me you know that you're the one yep has attempted to keep files from me that are rightly mine and you're trying you're trying you trying to flip that around and make it look like I'm the one who's doing that off that's that's called projecting and it's manipulative tactic that when you're doing something that is evil you make it look like the other person is doing that evil thing that you did in the first place off if it's evil to keep you know marital files from your partner then you obviously did it first no I didn't well yeah I mean you're saying that you're the one who put the password on it so you definitely did it first but the idea of that I'm the one who are in if you plug them if
speaker 1: you plug my network equipment back in like it was then I'll have access to it and I can give you what you need. If you not willing to do that then I can help you
speaker 2: and what I need is your password so that I can have all the files that are on
speaker 1: it now
speaker 2: okay so what is your singular goal in life this is all obviously every micro decision you make is obviously part of your strategic plan towards one and one and only what is that goal in life
speaker 1: I don't know honey
speaker 2: it's pretty important Dustin You've Got One Life to Live
speaker 1: I know I'm kind of not even tell me why you're filling out the FAFSA so this is all a little
speaker 2: bit that's a diversionary
speaker 1: tactic well you keep saying it to the box is acting but it's not
speaker 2: I have a right to pull
speaker 1: from anything that I'm interested in well yeah but if a serious to me while you're filling it out so
speaker 2: that's a diversion like you're changing the subject the subject at hand is will
speaker 1: you put the password to get back with you changing the subject that's what I said you're
speaker 2: changing the subject you didn't bring up the FAFSA because I called
speaker 1: straight to the way something that I hear about
speaker 2: it right you changing the subject to
speaker 1: change my opinion of what I should be doing so
speaker 2: no I don't own you an explanation for choosing independently to take the actions that are my right to choose to take off so that you can decide if I don't do it as an
speaker 1: explanation of why I'm taking my actions it's well you do because if it's been a one-sided that actually is my property that you're holding from me so
speaker 2: yeah it is in in a you're not making it clear what your singular goal in life
speaker 1: is I guess that's my personal property that I don't have to share with you
speaker 2: so your goal in life is to ensure that nobody destroys your delusion that marital property is actually personal property that's your singular goal in life and it's more important to you than anything then I'm not really understanding what you're singular goal in life sucks
speaker 1: cuz I haven't spoken to that
speaker 2: at all will you been telling me this week what your singular goal in life is are you saying that you've changed your
speaker 1: mind no I haven't spoken to that at
speaker 2: all will you have
speaker 1: I don't know I haven't
speaker 2: I mean I have I have telephone recordings or is it talked about what your one goal in life is I have text messages texted me about what your one goal in life is so I mean it it's obviously your prerogative to like reconsider it and change your goals in life
speaker 1: I haven't spoken to that at
speaker 2: all I know but you're saying that you haven't spoken to your your pretending that I
speaker 1: have to give you my files in order for us to work on marriage and I don't agree with you I'm not ducking I don't
speaker 2: Dustin you're pretending that we need to work on our marriage. marriage doesn't need to be worked on we don't have no problems for an abusive man right you were looking for
speaker 1: your filling out a fast food to go to school even though you're calling me that you're not going to
speaker 2: school Dustin massive diversionary tactic to try to
speaker 1: getting you what you want your life no I'm saying your chance I mean that information would get me what I
speaker 2: wanted to fill out a FAFSA when that's not related to it
speaker 1: it's only related to my interest in this conversation I understand that you're not interested that's why I'm saying yes we have a relationship problem you're filling out a FAFSA and going to school even though you told me that you're not doing that and I'm withholding my password server because that is it so that
speaker 2: is a control problem Dustin that's not a marital problem that's a man who at his office is incapable of understanding boundaries and understanding what are other people's
speaker 1: decisions are the boundary I'm just saying I don't agree with boundary and given that you're setting that boundary it doesn't give me a lot of confidence and sharing
speaker 2: I like with you right because she thinks that I know you think what you don't what you really want is to be back in a position of power and control over me where you can manipulate me and use me off that's not the same thing as a marriage so we don't have a marital problem because you're not actually pursuing a marriage your
speaker 1: same position of power and fill out the FAFSA I'm saying I will given control of my files I will give you your files that you need to order to complete your life goal of filling out a FASFA despite not telling me why am I I'm not trying to control you
speaker 2: you're saying that I need to explain to you why I'm filling out a FAFSA so you can decide
speaker 1: okay I asked you to regardless of whether you tell me why or not that is your prerogative and I will give you the files necessary to fill out your financial information to fill out your scholarship and page into the school that you told me you're not going to but you're actually going
speaker 2: to I can't give you the hardware though because I don't have a copy of them all be marital
speaker 1: files have to wait until you divorce me and they'll say that I can have it back
speaker 2: what why would you do
speaker 1: that I'm not doing it Aaron you're doing
speaker 2: it no you're trying to twist this around on me you're claiming that your singular goal in life is to pursue stop being an abuser stopping being a manipulator stopping being a liar and only being an honorable man who loves and serves his wife and children putting nothing before that and now you're accusing me of being my fault that we're getting divorced
speaker 1: no I didn't say that your fault that we were getting
speaker 2: divorced yeah you did you said that I would have to
speaker 1: nobody says that's your fault we're getting divorced that was not saddened because nobody said it
speaker 2: okay so you feel like it's his fault Destin right now cuz I must have
speaker 1: misunderstood I I
speaker 2: don't and that's what you're asking me to pursue so that you can get your service back
speaker 1: post-divorce no nobody said I'm asking you to pursue divorced I've asked you not to pursue divorced
speaker 2: or will you just said that I have to divorce you so that you could then get your servers back I
speaker 1: said we will wait until you do which is your stated goal
speaker 2: no it's not dead but it sounds like you think that that is the path forward to actually being able to share our intellectual property that
speaker 1: no you put my service back online I will share the files that
speaker 2: you need I'm not asking for the files that I need I'm asking for all of the files because they were joint marital property
speaker 1: you have our joint marital property in your control and possession and I do not and I would like access to it but
speaker 2: so that's what I'm trying to do like I'm trying to do this without going through the court and you're saying divorce me so that the court could not compel us to do the right thing which doesn't make sense in the context of you don't supposedly don't want to get
speaker 1: divorced good afternoon. What the right thing
speaker 2: yeah but you're pretending that they're not my servers you're pretending that they're not my servers to like you're not actually making coherent sentence when you pretend that they're not mine
speaker 1: I'm not they're not yours or mine
speaker 2: that's not possible Dustin that's that technology did not even exist in 2004, there's no way that you have that before we got married
speaker 1: what you went off line from our house when it was supposed to be online so that I would have remote access to that could provide you with a bottle of Diet you're asking me for right now
speaker 2: okay with you know that before you checked into Honey Lake I wasn't speaking to you at all and you know that the reason was because it had become very apparent not just to me but to everybody who those both of us everybody who knows both you and I could tell that you were utilizing every word I spoke as a tactic to gain power and control over me and to manipulate me and to hurt my reputation unfairly when I've been acting honorably and I can tell in this conversation that your motives regarding every single word I say to you haven't changed since you checked in the Honey Lake and you know that the reason that I began speaking to you when you checked into Honey Lake was because you were representing to me that you were in dire need of me to help you understand how long you've been manipulative so that you could get better so that we could be married so that I could see how much I can trust you and as much as you've said that I can trust you you've gotten honestly worse you haven't done anything trustworthy you haven't missed any opportunity to use on my words and manipulate
speaker 1: every single file that you can possibly need a permit to you suck and you told me that you weren't going to apply the schools and now all of a sudden. Saying that you want or even visited
speaker 2: yeah so that's just a great example though of you like trying to flip things around on me off or doing something that is
speaker 1: inherently and
speaker 2: you're doing something that is inherently not trustworthy like I don't know anybody who says oh my my spouse has secret files that I'm not allowed to access like there that's not I don't know anybody anybody in a marriage where that's a thing so so what you're doing like looks really odd yucky and nasty and dirty and underhanded and controlling and abusive and not loving like that's yep is actually happening and you're playing games to make it sound as though this is about Aaron this is about Aaron being underhanded and lying and saying she's not going to stop them filling up fast because she just makes up things and it's not really true and she won't be honest about her intentions so you
speaker 1: know like that server would stay online at her house, can you take physical server out of our house
speaker 2: right this is an example though of you like trying to twist everything around on me I didn't do anything dishonorable but you want people to believe you want people to believe that I'm dishonorable you want to believe that we had an agreement but then we did some terrible things your wife went and she went back an agreement and she disconnected all of your equipment and she's withholding your property wage like you that's what you want people to believe about me when you know believe that and everybody who everybody knows me knows that I'm extremely honorable and that I don't do things like that and that I don't go back on but I don't
speaker 1: think
speaker 2: that's literally what you want people to believe about me when in Rome when in reality you use technology as a method of power and control and it's abusive and wrong and other honorable husband's do not use technology as a method of power and control and the fact that we're having to come over here and invade my space too
speaker 1: comfortable give you what you need to fill out the path even though you're
speaker 2: dead why right but I'm saying that okay but also my decision to make is to never speak to you again and only communicate with you only about things related to time sharing our children only took our family wizard app because that is the only communication that you can be trusted with given your history of trying to use smart app and then that okay you're giving me a lot of good information about your real intentions at Honey Lake and your real intentions off and your real intentions for me and that is very helpful and that Clarity is what I was seeking when I first um began speaking to you while you were checked into the clinic and I'm glad that I'm glad that you if you you won't have
speaker 1: been telling you that I'm glad that you have on file that we supposedly owned together
speaker 2: I know and as much as I'm sad to see that your intentions aren't to love and honor me in a functional marriage I think the next best thing that could have possibly come from my communication with them is for you to in a big way um make your actual intentions clear so that I don't have to wonder where you are because the last few weeks you've been back and forth so much I've had the Wonder but there was not a single point on which I can say that you've changed anything and I mean anything like with regard to your manipulation of the elders with regards to you slandering in public and through the courts with regard to you trying to control
speaker 1: me and click I haven't done either of those haven't
speaker 2: communicated with I mean okay the fact that you're lying to me right now is really really good for me to bring clarity about whether it's ever going to be safe for me to speak to you and I thought that it would be really helpful to have you have that accountability having recording but I don't think that that actually changes anything in terms of your intentions and what you're trying to paint the ass so I'm just saying like you spent a whole week like trying to tell me I'm giving you everything and that was never able to know you said that you suck painting files so I was I was believing you but it wasn't true that you were actually planning to give me everything and so believing you is not a safe thing for me to do because I have to look in
speaker 1: the paper I'll give you passwords I just
speaker 2: go ahead
speaker 1: never mind I'll text them to you
speaker 2: okay go ahead by